the filioque

[Fides_et_Ratio]

What do we mean by "proceed" in the Filioque?

[quote]John 16:7  "But I tell you the truth: it is expedient to you that I go. For if I go not, the Paraclete will not come to you: but if I go, I will send him to you."[/quote]

I came across John 16:7, and immediately thought of the Filioque. I know we like to be all technical by our words (usually the Orthodox are less analytical, so it seems funny in this particular instance sides are flip-flopped), but if Jesus "sends" the Holy Spirit, how would it be inappropriate (or blasphemous in the Orthodox view) to say that the Holy Spirit proceeds from the Father and the Son?

[phatcatholic]

well, to severely oversimplify the matter, i think the orthodox fear that the filioque implicitly denies that all things find their source in the Father. but, this implication is not there.

the section on the filioque is here:
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/179"]http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/179[/url]

there may also be a few articles in the ECF section for that entry:
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/213"]http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/213[/url]

pax christi,
nick

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

Apotheoun posted a docuemnt from the Pontifical Council for Promoting Christian Unity entitled "Clarification on the Filioque" here:
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=18477&hl=filioque#"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?s...77&hl=filioque#[/url]

Another interesting link (just submitted to the Defense Directory):
[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/filioque.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/filioque.asp[/url]

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='thedude' date='Aug 15 2005, 09:32 AM']Another interesting link (just submitted to the Defense Directory):
[url="http://www.catholic.com/library/filioque.asp"]http://www.catholic.com/library/filioque.asp[/url]
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already have it for future reference, if an article has alot of ECF testimony it will probably be in the ECF section of an entry. in this case, your article is in the ECF section of the "non-catholic christians" entry.

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

Sweet. Is the "Clarification..." document in the Directory as well? If not, I'll hunt it down and submit it.