Are We The Bread Of Life...

[Jake Huether]

There is a song in our Hymnal that goes, "I am the Bread of Life. You and I are the Bread of Life, broken and shared..." By Rory Cooney.

That was song during Holy Communion (at which time there were several GIRM abuses, as you know).

We aren't the Bread of Life. Jesus is! And if they argue that we are the Body of Christ, that is just silly. We are the Mystical Body of Christ. His REAL PHYSICAL Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Most Holy Eucharist is the Bread of Life. We aren't the Bread of Life for eachother.

Rrrrr. The total disrespect, lack of teaching, lack of understanding, and outright abuse of the Body of Jesus Christ in our Parish is racking my brain. I become physically unwell during the consecration, because my heart is so hurt that our Lord isn't recognized in the Eucharist! And this song just put the nail in the coffin.

I don't know what to do. I need spiritual direction.

I've written to the Bishop. I think I'm going to talk to a priest that I know.

This is really upsetting.

[Dave]

I've never heard that song, but I've definitely heard of it. I can't believe such songs are sung during Mass -- songs that appear to promote heretical doctrines on the Eucharist! Jake, I'll pray for you regarding this situation. May writing to the bishop produce much fruit!

[PedroX]

We've sung that song as well. Its that blasted publishing house out of Oregon. Almost everything they print is nonsense. I've tried and tried to change the music, but Ah well.

peace...

[CatholicAndFanatical]

Jake, give us your bishops email address or mailing address and we'll help ya complain..hehe, i said 'we' thank you everyone for the manditory volunteering :D

If the Bishop just gets one complaint he'll look right over it, if he is flooded with about 50-100 complaints he'll have to look into it especially if we all mention Eucharistic Abuse and describe why.

[Jake Huether]

http://www.dsj.org/bishop/mcgrath_bio.htm

[littleflower+JMJ]

jake why are you preaching to the choir?

oh wait! you DO need to preach to the choir!!

haha cuz the choir should know about this.

LOL sorry couldn't resist!! i thought it was a good one

anyone in the choir (well not just them, its everyone's duty) should recognize and know that through alot of the songs, this is one to avoid.

you are right. i have to agree.

that song has some underlying issues.

our priest made sure no one sang that song again. ever.

[Jake Huether]

our priest made sure no one sang that song again. ever.

Can you have your priest email my priest. Hahaha.

[CatholicAndFanatical]

Jake what diocese are you in and whats your parish called?

[Jake Huether]

Jake what diocese are you in and whats your parish called?

Diocese of San Jose. St. Justin's Parish.

St. Justin, Pray for us. Amen.

[littleflower+JMJ]

Can you have your priest email my priest. Hahaha.

im not sure. i think so.

i'll have to ask him. :ph34r:

[foundsheep]

Jake is that San Jose California?

[Jake Huether]

yeah.

[foundsheep]

Have you tried writing Bishop Stienbeck in the diocese right below you(diocese of fresno) for his input?

[Jake Huether]

Have you tried writing Bishop Stienbeck in the diocese right below you(diocese of fresno) for his input?

Should I, you think?

I mean, I could. But would the odds of him reading it be any better?

What are the benefits that you see?

[nikkan_hanil]

We as the Church, are the Body, but we are not the Bread. That can only come from the Master alone...

Edited November 24, 2003 by nikkan_hanil

[foundsheep]

I would say write all the bishops in california. If he hasnt answered you apply some type of pressure. Write all of them every few days till you get an answer.

[Jake Huether]

I would say write all the bishops in california. If he hasnt answered you apply some type of pressure. Write all of them every few days till you get an answer.

Good idea!

Actually, I might wait a bit to do that. If my Bishop does respond, then I don't want to cause scandle. I will wait and pray.

But if I don't get a response in the next few weeks, I will.

Oooohhhhh, and it will only take a few more Sundays at Mass before I explode.

[Katholikos]

There are a number of those "I am" and "We are" songs that are popular here. I'm with you, Jake. They make my blood boil, to the point where all the grace I may have merited at Mass and Communion are probably lost.

St. Thomas offers a beautiful, authentic daily Mass. But on Sunday, Mass begins with "Let's all turn and greet one another" and a whole bunch of chatter, like: "Where are you from?" "I like your dress" and other *&^(* goes on amidst the handshakes. I won't play that game, so I offend people around me. Geeeeesh, they think, talk about unfriendly! Holding hands during the Our Father is mandatory, according to the congregation who won't take "no" for an answer. Then at Communion, EME's are swarming all over the altar, opening the Tabernacle, pouring the Precious Blood into breakable glasses, breaking the hosts apart, as the priest takes his Communion. Then the blessings in lieu of Communion begin. EME's bless babies, children, adults, anyone. So do the priests. It makes me crazy -- I literally cannot stand it. So I go to Sunday Mass downtown, at a Jesuit parish, where they have a classically trained music director and cantors good enough for the Metropolitan Opera. The music is beautiful and dignified, befitting the King of Kings. BUT -- this music minister presents the same Psalm each week until there's a change absolutely necessary (like the switch to Advent). He's not allowed to do that! There's the same EME problem (it's universal right now). Recently a deacon preached a homily on how we should not be at war with Iraq and nearly started a riot after Mass when angry parishioners told him he hadn't oughta do that. There are other infractions, but at least I don't have to chit-chat while I'm preparing myself to kneel at Calvary.

And on and on the abuses go. It's a question of what abuses bug us the most, I guess.

I'm waiting for the new bishop. I complained to the old one and got a response like "thank you for your concern for the liturgy. I think the liturgies in our diocese are great." (He's now awaiting trial on hit and run charges in a fatal accident, poor soul.) I hope you do better, Jake.

I long for the old days . . . I'd happily fast from midnight to noon to attend the beautiful High Mass.

I'll join the Bishops' complaint committee.

Ave Cor Mariae, Likos

[Jake Huether]

There are a number of those "I am" and "We are" songs that are popular here.  I'm with you, Jake.  They make my blood boil, to the point where all the grace I may have merited at Mass and Communion are probably lost. 

St. Thomas offers a beautiful, authentic daily Mass.  But on Sunday, Mass begins with "Let's all turn and greet one another" and a whole bunch of chatter, like:  "Where are you from?"  "I like your dress" and other *&^(*  goes on amidst the handshakes.  I won't play that game, so I offend people around me.  Geeeeesh, they think, talk about unfriendly!  Holding hands during the Our Father is mandatory, according to the congregation who won't take "no" for an answer.  Then at Communion, EME's are swarming all over the altar, opening the Tabernacle, pouring the Precious Blood into breakable glasses, breaking the hosts apart, as the priest takes his Communion.  Then the blessings in lieu of Communion begin.  EME's bless babies, children, adults, anyone.  So do the priests.  It makes me crazy -- I literally cannot stand it.  So I go to Sunday Mass downtown, at a Jesuit parish, where they have a classically trained music director and cantors good enough for the Metropolitan Opera.  The music is beautiful and dignified, befitting the King of Kings.  BUT -- this music minister presents the same Psalm each week until there's a change absolutely necessary (like the switch to Advent).  He's not allowed to do that!  There's the same EME problem (it's universal right now).  Recently a deacon preached a homily on how we should not be at war with Iraq and nearly started a riot after Mass when angry parishioners told him he hadn't oughta do that.  There are other infractions, but at least I don't have to chit-chat while I'm preparing myself to kneel at Calvary.

And on and on the abuses go.  It's a question of what abuses bug us the most, I guess. 

I'm waiting for the new bishop.  I complained to the old one and got a response like "thank you for your concern for the liturgy.  I think the liturgies in our diocese are great."  (He's now awaiting trial on hit and run charges in a fatal accident, poor soul.) I hope you do better, Jake. 

I long for the old days . . .  I'd happily fast from midnight to noon to attend the beautiful High Mass.

I'll join the Bishops' complaint committee.

Ave Cor Mariae, Likos

Thank you for your encouragement, Likos.

I will try as much as I can.

[Ellenita]

Well at least you don't sing chorus' over and over and over again which was my experience in the Charismatic House Church Movement (a brief moment of insanity on my part, honest!! :D ) I remember one delightful gentleman in his 70s who was from a more traditional background, at experiencing this type of service for the first time, saying God must think we think he's deaf!!