Dreamweaver Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I just looked up choktis, and it looks like they're Orthodox prayer beads. THey look similar to a rosary, and they come in various styles with 33, 50 and 100 beads. On the beads, one prays the Jesus prayer, "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, have mercy on me, a sinner." Its a contemplative prayer, where one inhales slowly during "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God" and exhales during "Have mercy on me, a sinner."
Oik Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 Dreamweaver's right. The Chotki are beads used to say the Jesus Prayer.
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted September 2, 2005 Posted September 2, 2005 I don't think Latin Rite Catholics use Chotkis. On the Rosary People pray Hail Mary's and The LOrds prayer and on chotkis they say the jesus prayer.
Fidei Defensor Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 2 2005, 05:15 PM']I don't think Latin Rite Catholics use Chotkis. On the Rosary People pray Hail Mary's and The LOrds prayer and on chotkis they say the jesus prayer. [right][snapback]709005[/snapback][/right] [/quote] There is no prohibitation though.. Its not like you would be excommunicated. One can use a rosary and pray the Jesus Prayer.. that would be cool. I should try that some time.
Anastasia13 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Posted September 3, 2005 Anyone know of any sites on how to make a chotki?
FlyLikeABird Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='Sep 2 2005, 06:56 PM']There is no prohibitation though.. Its not like you would be excommunicated. One can use a rosary and pray the Jesus Prayer.. that would be cool. I should try that some time. [right][snapback]709119[/snapback][/right] [/quote] The most usual way, if I'm not mistaken, of doing that in the western church is to say the Divine Mercy chaplet. Short and sweet the DM chaplet is great if your short on time, I've prayed it between classes. I think I'll try to make a habit of that this semester.
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 [quote name='Light and Truth' date='Sep 3 2005, 03:34 AM']Anyone know of any sites on how to make a chotki? [right][snapback]709397[/snapback][/right] [/quote] My old roommate makes them.. I remember him saying that the knots are symbolic of the cross somehow. I've had really cool roommates over the years.
Fidei Defensor Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 [quote name='FlyLikeABird' date='Sep 3 2005, 03:43 AM']The most usual way, if I'm not mistaken, of doing that in the western church is to say the Divine Mercy chaplet. Short and sweet the DM chaplet is great if your short on time, I've prayed it between classes. I think I'll try to make a habit of that this semester. [right][snapback]709398[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yes, generally. One could substitue the Jesus prayer of the east though, if you wanted. But both are equally beautiful.
Anastasia13 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Posted September 3, 2005 [quote name='fidei defensor' date='Sep 3 2005, 01:57 PM']Yes, generally. One could substitue the Jesus prayer of the east though, if you wanted. But both are equally beautiful. [right][snapback]709774[/snapback][/right] [/quote] What is that?
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 what is the Jesus prayer or what is divine Mercy prayers?
Anastasia13 Posted September 3, 2005 Author Posted September 3, 2005 [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Sep 3 2005, 02:28 PM']what is the Jesus prayer or what is divine Mercy prayers? [right][snapback]709805[/snapback][/right] [/quote] He said Jesus prayer of the east. Why of the east? Is that any different from in the west?
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted September 3, 2005 Posted September 3, 2005 well the Jesus prayer is not Part of the West's tradition until recently because of the influence of Eastern Catholics. So the Jesus Prayer is a prayer of Eastern Catholics and The Eastern Orthodox churches. Where in THe Lain Catholic Church one can say and benifiet from it but it is not part of our tradition. God Bless, Sam
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