Semalsia Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 I'm just wondering... Is there any thing you can think of that would convince you of there being no God? Or is everything explainable? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 Actually, it is a dogmatic teaching of the Catholic Church that the existence of God can be known from the created world by the light of human reason. This was defined in the document [i]Dei Filius[/i] from the Vatican I Council. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semalsia Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 Um, so is that a no? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 [quote name='Semalsia' date='Sep 10 2005, 04:59 PM']Um, so is that a no? [right][snapback]718376[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Well, you're kinda asking two questions. The answer to the first is no. Nothing could convince me that there is no God. I believe it with all my being. The answer to the second is also no. Not everything is explainable...but everying has an explanation...we just can't comprehend it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semalsia Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 [quote]Nothing could convince me that there is no God.[/quote] Even those things that contradict the catholic dogma? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thy Geekdom Come Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 [quote name='Semalsia' date='Sep 10 2005, 05:21 PM']Even those things that contradict the catholic dogma? [right][snapback]718400[/snapback][/right] [/quote] There is no such thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semalsia Posted September 10, 2005 Author Share Posted September 10, 2005 Hm, I think I understand it now. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brother Adam Posted September 10, 2005 Share Posted September 10, 2005 To state that there is no absolute truth would in fact be making a statement of absolute truth in itself, therefore I believe in absolute truths. If there is a such thing as absolute truth that means conclusively some things will be truth and others error. Therefore it is possible that the existance of God could be a truth to which there is no way to adequately show that there is no God. I happen to accept the fact that all evidence shows the absolute truth that there is a God, and therefore it is impossible to prove that there is no God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Sep 10 2005, 05:51 PM']To state that there is no absolute truth would in fact be making a statement of absolute truth in itself, therefore I believe in absolute truths. If there is a such thing as absolute truth that means conclusively some things will be truth and others error. Therefore it is possible that the existance of God could be a truth to which there is no way to adequately show that there is no God. I happen to accept the fact that all evidence shows the absolute truth that there is a God, and therefore it is impossible to prove that there is no God. [right][snapback]718442[/snapback][/right] [/quote] true, that - dawg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 what he said : seriously tho, its impossible for anything to contradict dogma. that's why its dogma in the first place. God's divine mystery, revealed to us, that's dogma! : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MC Just Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 lol- it is an impossibility to prove there is no GOD. Such a question makes absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curtins Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 wake up- take a look around something had to make it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest JeffCR07 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 Semalsia, You may be interested in my perspective on the discussion, since it does not concern the issue of a cause for creation: Because I accept as valid the ontological argument as formulated by St. Anselm of Canterbury, it follows for me, and for those like myself, that God cannot even be conceived of as non-existing. As such, God cannot be "proven not to exist" precisely because any being which is capable of being shown to be non-existent is, by definition, not God. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kateri05 Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 smarty pants : Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hierochloe Posted September 11, 2005 Share Posted September 11, 2005 [quote name='Brother Adam' date='Sep 10 2005, 04:51 PM']I happen to accept the fact that all evidence shows the absolute truth that there is a God, and therefore it is impossible to prove that there is no God. [right][snapback]718442[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Ditto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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