Peace Sign

[MC Just]

Symbol of Anti-christ.

Broken Cross basically saying "no christ, know peace". It represents a lie. That there can be True freedom and Peace without Christ.

Edited September 16, 2005 by MC Just

[MC Just]

Its also the Cross of Nero.

[White Knight]

Ya, I notice that and I try to explain it to folks, but they completely dont even brother listening, have any solid crediable evidence to back this up?


I believe ya too, just to let ya know.

[hierochloe]

I've often heard the same about this symbol. How then did it ever come to represent a concept like "peace"?

[White Knight]

Thats precisely what I wanna know as well, if it means the opposite, then how did it go from what it was, to what it is.

[Dreamweaver]

[url="http://www.lib.berkeley.edu/~lcushing/addpages/PeaceSymbolArticle.html"]I found an article[/url] that explains that the peace symbol, aka the Campaign for Nuclear Disarmament logo was invented in 1958 by Gerald Holtom.

[MC Just]

[quote name='hierochloe' date='Sep 16 2005, 01:02 AM']I've often heard the same about this symbol. How then did it ever come to represent a concept like "peace"?
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Athiests and Anti-Christians believe we are the cause of the worlds wars and problems, they believe if Christ's message and the church were supressed there would be Peace, this is what Nero believed, Nero had a vision of the symbol. It means "no christ, know peace".

[White Knight]

Means despair, very interesting articile.

[jezic]

hmm. WHich peace sign?

The circle one?

I guess i can't say that would surprise me overly much.

[Noel's angel]

yeah, its the circle

[Chris of Zewe]

Religion is the cause of every single societal problem in today's world, without exception. End of story.

[Benedict]

[quote name='Chris of Zewe' date='Sep 17 2005, 02:49 PM']Religion is the cause of every single societal problem in today's world, without exception.  End of story.[/quote]
Yes, religion is to blame for the lack of free parking. Stupid religion.

[Chris of Zewe]

It is. Capitalism is a result of religion.

[avemaria40]

Religion gives people hope, something to believe in, and SomeOne to lean on during the hard times. It encourages ppl to be better, kinder. Have u heard of organizations like Workcamp, Catholic Charities, Christian Children's Fund, Project Rachel, Rock for Life, and others? If religion does more harm than good, then it guess it's wrong to heal from horrible things happening in your life. One of my friends said that her faith helped her through the death of her sister. And it's through a religious organization that a little friend of mine in Honduras is getting food, clothing, and the opportunity to an education. Also, Mother Teresa, Mohandas Ghandi, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Harriet Tubman, St. Joan of Arc, Albert Einstein, Louis Pasteur, and Pope John Paul II were all religious ppl. Also, my faith helps me get through my day, gives me something to look forward to and encourages me to be kinder than i want to be. What can be wrong with that?

Edited September 17, 2005 by avemaria40

[Chris of Zewe]

[quote name='avemaria40' date='Sep 17 2005, 04:15 PM']Religion gives people hope, something to believe in, and SomeOne to lean on during the hard times.  It encourages ppl to be better, kinder.  Have u heard of organizations like Workcamp, Catholic Charities, Christian Children's Fund, Project Rachel, Rock for Life, and others?  If religion does more harm than good, then it guess it's wrong to heal from horrible things happening in your life.  One of my friends said that her faith helped her through the death of her sister.  And it's through a religious organization that a little friend of mine in Honduras is getting food, clothing, and the opportunity to an education.  Also, Mother Teresa, Mohandas Ghandi, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Harriet Tubman, St. Joan of Arc, Albert Einstein, Louis Pasteur, and Pope John Paul II were all religious ppl.  Also, my faith helps me get through my day, gives me something to look forward to and encourages me to be kinder than i want to be.  What can be wrong with that?
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There's just...so much wrong with that post on so many levels...I could probably write a book on it if I wanted to...not kidding...anyway, I'll briefly address something that really bothers me about your post...

[quote]If religion does more harm than good, then it guess it's wrong to heal from horrible things happening in your life.[/quote]

Deluding yourself is NOT A GOOD THING TO DO. If a loved one dies, fooling yourself into thinking that they're in Heaven, happily grovelling before their Creator isn't going to make anything better. It's just lies. How are lies helpful?? How is all the strife and death caused by these lies helpful??? Are you a Luciferian anarchist?

[Socrates]

[quote name='avemaria40' date='Sep 17 2005, 04:15 PM']Religion gives people hope, something to believe in, and SomeOne to lean on during the hard times.  It encourages ppl to be better, kinder.  Have u heard of organizations like Workcamp, Catholic Charities, Christian Children's Fund, Project Rachel, Rock for Life, and others?  If religion does more harm than good, then it guess it's wrong to heal from horrible things happening in your life.  One of my friends said that her faith helped her through the death of her sister.  And it's through a religious organization that a little friend of mine in Honduras is getting food, clothing, and the opportunity to an education.  Also, Mother Teresa, Mohandas Ghandi, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., Harriet Tubman, St. Joan of Arc, Albert Einstein, Louis Pasteur, and Pope John Paul II were all religious ppl.  Also, my faith helps me get through my day, gives me something to look forward to and encourages me to be kinder than i want to be.  What can be wrong with that?
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Don't feed the troll. He's not interested in coherent thought.

[Chris of Zewe]

Ad Hominem, I CHOOSE YOU!

[avemaria40]

How can a religion based on Truth be lies? There's just too much scientific evidence that points to the existence of a God (if some of the world's greatest scientists like Pasteur, Einstein, Mme. Curie, and probably others did) and also, there have been studies done to prove that Christians, particularly those who are practicing, go to church every week, live chastely, etc. are happier, and live longer than those who don't. And also, 2 billion ppl cannot be that deluded. That goes against logic way too much. Christianity has to be true and religion has to be helpful if the brightest scientists and most influential peace activists and philanthropists believed in something like that. Just look at history and science and it confirms it. As for corruption, wars, and persecution, those were not based on actual religion, but on people's perception of religion.

[Chris of Zewe]

You seem to be pulling things out of your...ear...my friend. After I saw "2 billion", I decided to ignore you.

[littleflower+JMJ]

[quote name='Chris of Zewe' date='Sep 17 2005, 04:37 PM']You seem to be pulling things out of your...ear...my friend.  After I saw "2 billion", I decided to ignore you.
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i'm pretty sure it was way before that Chris. when she said 2 billion she/he meant christians

avemaria40, great post, i agree.