the most violent developed country on earth

[cmotherofpirl]

Scotland tops list of world's most violent countries
By Katrina Tweedie



A UNITED Nations report has labelled Scotland the most violent country in the developed world, with people three times more likely to be assaulted than in America.
England and Wales recorded the second highest number of violent assaults while Northern Ireland recorded the fewest.

The study, based on telephone interviews with victims of crime in 21 countries, found that more than 2,000 Scots were attacked every week, almost ten times the official police figures. They include non-sexual crimes of violence and serious assaults.

Violent crime has doubled in Scotland over the past 20 years and levels, per head of population, are now comparable with cities such as Rio de Janeiro, Johannesburg and Tbilisi.

The attacks have been fuelled by a “booze and blades” culture in the west of Scotland which has claimed more than 160 lives over the past five years. Since January there have been 13 murders, 145 attempted murders and 1,100 serious assaults involving knives in the west of Scotland. The problem is made worse by sectarian violence, with hospitals reporting higher admissions following Old Firm matches.

David Ritchie, an accident and emergency consultant at Glasgow’s Victoria Infirmary, said that the figures were a national disgrace. “I am embarrassed as a Scot that we are seeing this level of violence. Politicians must do something about this problem. This is a serious public health issue. Violence is a cancer in this part of the world,” he said.

Detective Chief Superintendent John Carnochan, head of the Strathclyde Police’s violence reduction unit, said the problem was chronic and restricting access to drink and limiting the sale of knives would at least reduce the problem.

The study, by the UN’s crime research institute, found that 3 per cent of Scots had been victims of assault compared with 1.2 per cent in America and just 0.1 per cent in Japan, 0.2 per cent in Italy and 0.8 per cent in Austria. In England and Wales the figure was 2.8 per cent.

Scotland was eighth for total crime, 13th for property crime, 12th for robbery and 14th for sexual assault. New Zealand had the most property crimes and sexual assaults, while Poland had the most robberies.

Chief Constable Peter Wilson, president of the Association of Chief Police Officers in Scotland, questioned the figures. “It must be near impossible to compare assault figures from one country to the next based on phone calls,” he said.

“We have been doing extensive research into violent crime in Scotland for some years now and this has shown that in the vast majority of cases, victims of violent crime are known to each other. We do accept, however, that, despite your chances of being a victim of assault being low in Scotland, a problem does exist.”

timesonline.co.uk

[Dreamweaver]

Two words: Soccer riots. Of course, it would be more proper to say football riots.

[Brother Adam]

Ironic. I've been listening to Scottish music the last few days.

[Deeds]

I don't think it was a valid survey. The UN obtained their data by phoning people from various countries and asking if they had been assaulted. Their figure for Scotland is [b]10 times[/b] those of official police records. How on earth can there be so many unreported assaults?

[Cow of Shame]

I guess if they had plenty of guns, they'd pretty much self-regulate their population numbers....

Personally, I've always feared a giant Scottish influx, with their man-skirts & the accompanying and uncomfortable questions of undergarments...

[philothea]

Eeek! It's a miniature giant space hamster!

[hierochloe]

[quote name='Cow of Shame' date='Sep 19 2005, 05:40 PM']... their man-skirts & the accompanying and uncomfortable questions of undergarments...
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It's only a skirt/dress if there's panties underneath. Hope that clears up any questions.

[cmotherofpirl]

Kilts are awesome and men look great in them.

[Socrates]

[quote name='hierochloe' date='Sep 19 2005, 07:00 PM']It's only a skirt/dress if there's panties underneath. Hope that clears up any questions.
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Or watch Braveheart.

They're great for taunting the enemy!



FreeeEEEEEEEEEEEEDOMMMMMMMM!!!!!!!!!!

[Deeds]

*Looks up list marked "SCOTTISH STEREOTYPES"*

Yep, I think they've all been mentioned now.

[cmotherofpirl]

Its no stereotype
that scots look great in kilts

[Didacus]

If they would have included moose assaults Canada!

As for skirts:


Arrogant Worms lyrics - The Scotsman song text


Well a scotsman clad in kilt left the bar one evening fair.
And could tell by how he walked that he'd drunk more than his share.
He fumbled 'round until he could no longer keep his feet
and he stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street

Chorus: Ring ding didde diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddley i-oh
He stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street.

About that time two young and lovely girls just happened by
And one says to the other with a twinkle in her eye
"See young sleeping Scotsman so strong and handsome built
I wonder if its true what they dont wear beneath the kilt!"

Chorus: Ring ding diddle diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddley i-oh
I wonder if its true what they dont wear beneath the kilt!

They crept up on that sleeping Scotsman quiet as could be
Lifted up his kilt about an inch so they could see
and there behold for them to view
beneath his Scottish skirt was nothing more then God had graced him with upon his birth!

Chorus: Ring ding diddle diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddley i-oh
Was nothing more than God had graced him with upon his birth

They marveled for a moment, then one said we must gone
Lets leave a present for our friend before we move along!
As a gift they left a blue silk ribbon tied into a bow
Around the bunny star, the Scots kilt did lift them show

Chorus: Ring ding diddle diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddley i-oh
Around the bunny star, the Scots kilt did lift them show

Now the Scotsman woke to nature's call and stumbled towards a tree
Behind the bush he lifts his kilt and gawks at what he sees!
And in a startled voice he says to whats before his eyes
"(grunt) Lad i donno where ya been but I see ya won first prize!"

Chorus: Ring ding diddle diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddlye i-oh
Ah lad i dunno where ya been but I see ya won first priz!

[Deeds]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Sep 20 2005, 08:08 PM']Its no stereotype
that scots look great in kilts
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Yes but people only wear them nowadays for weddings and other formal occasions.

[Sojourner]

[quote name='Deeds' date='Sep 20 2005, 06:17 AM']*Looks up list marked "SCOTTISH STEREOTYPES"*

Yep,  I think they've all been mentioned now.


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I don't think anyone's mentioned penny-pinching yet. That should make the list complete.

[Noel's angel]

kilts aren't skirts

[Noel's angel]

anyway, people in northern ireland don't report their assaults because they are too frightened of the loyalist and republican gangs that do it, plus a lot of people hate the PSNI, so most assults go unreported

[Ellenita]

[quote]The study, based on telephone interviews with victims of crime in 21 countries, found that more than 2,000 Scots were attacked every week, almost ten times the official police figures. They include non-sexual crimes of violence and serious assaults. [/quote]

This doesn't make sense! Did they only speak to people who had been victims of crime? In which case the results must be about victims who have experienced multiple assaults, otherwise the figure would be the same unless they called more in one country or another....which would mean the research was biased.....

It's a really flawed piece of research, or bad journalism.....

[MichaelFilo]

Well, I'd make the same claim, except for England and Wales, nearby neighbors, had the 2nd highest figures. It really isn't totally far-fetched. If only for proximity reasons, it seems possible that Scotland could have so many violent crimes.

God bless,
Mikey

[popestpiusx]

[quote name='Didacus' date='Sep 20 2005, 03:19 PM']If they would have included moose assaults Canada!

As for skirts:
Arrogant Worms lyrics - The Scotsman song text
Well a scotsman clad in kilt left the bar one evening fair.
And could tell by how he walked that he'd drunk more than his share.
He fumbled 'round until he could no longer keep his feet
and he stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street

Chorus: Ring ding didde diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddley i-oh
He stumbled off into the grass to sleep beside the street.

About that time two young and lovely girls just happened by
And one says to the other with a twinkle in her eye
"See young sleeping Scotsman so strong and handsome built
I wonder if its true what they dont wear beneath the kilt!"

Chorus: Ring ding diddle diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddley i-oh
I wonder if its true what they dont wear beneath the kilt!

They crept up on that sleeping Scotsman quiet as could be
Lifted up his kilt about an inch so they could see
and there behold for them to view
beneath his Scottish skirt was nothing more then God had graced him with upon his birth!

Chorus: Ring ding diddle diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddley i-oh
Was nothing more than God had graced him with upon his birth

They marveled for a moment, then one said we must gone
Lets leave a present for our friend before we move along!
As a gift they left a blue silk ribbon tied into a bow
Around the bunny star, the Scots kilt did lift them show

Chorus: Ring ding diddle diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddley i-oh
Around the bunny star, the Scots kilt did lift them show

Now the Scotsman woke to nature's call and stumbled towards a tree
Behind the bush he lifts his kilt and gawks at what he sees!
And in a startled voice he says to whats before his eyes
"(grunt) Lad i donno where ya been but I see ya won first prize!"

Chorus: Ring ding diddle diddle i-de-oh, ring di diddlye i-oh
Ah lad i dunno where ya been but I see ya won first priz!
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[argent_paladin]

Actually, it may not be flawed. There are two standard ways of reporting crimes: gathering data from the police and surveying the population. Generally, the first substantially underestimates the amount of crime, especially in hi-crime areas because so many people don't report the crimes to police.
Second, it is consistent with other data from England and Wales and fits the trends for the past few years.

This article gives great background as to the swift fall of Britain:
[url="http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1282/is_25_54/ai_95612956"]http://www.findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_..._54/ai_95612956[/url]

Here's a good one on gun control: [url="http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/lott200508190817.asp"]http://www.nationalreview.com/comment/lott200508190817.asp[/url]