Brother Adam Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 Well we did assume an awful lotta things from the man upfront, yelling and hootin' about stuff the poor dude didn't even bring up. Oh well. Didn't seem like he was particularly going after us cept maybe that first thread. I think gambling is a waste of time and money myself. I get more out of watching movies.
Aloysius Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 playing a good game of texas hold 'em isn't a waste of time or money if you're with friends. especially if you spend no more than you'd spend on a night at the movies or something... it's well worth your small price it one person ends up with a big loot :
Theoketos Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 [quote name='Jesuspaidtheprice' date='Oct 12 2005, 11:51 AM']So many replies. Thank you. Though I certainly did not say gambling in all forms is sinful, and as I try not to put words in anyone’s mouth, I'd appreciate the same courtesy. thessalonian, it seems that you have a real angst with me asking questions here. Perhaps I’m coming across as attacking, I did not mean to. My questions may be best suited for another time and another place. I will try to come back in a few days and get a new start. This is been quite an overwhelming experience so far. [right][snapback]755405[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I do not think it is angst, but excitement. I can see that you truly care about dialoque and geniunely really want fruit from discussion. It is just that we have not had a person of your character in a while. That being said, can you go into more detail on why you thing that the sodiers dividing the seemless garment is against gambling. Do any of the early Church Father's suggest this? Do any of the Reformers suggest this as well?
thessalonian Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 [quote name='Jesuspaidtheprice' date='Oct 12 2005, 11:51 AM']So many replies. Thank you. Though I certainly did not say gambling in all forms is sinful, and as I try not to put words in anyone’s mouth, I'd appreciate the same courtesy. thessalonian, it seems that you have a real angst with me asking questions here. Perhaps I’m coming across as attacking, I did not mean to. My questions may be best suited for another time and another place. I will try to come back in a few days and get a new start. This is been quite an overwhelming experience so far. [right][snapback]755405[/snapback][/right] [/quote] My style in answering non-catholics is very direct. I am sorry if you don't like it. That is just the way I am. I run in to so many non-catholics who already "know what we believe" that my expectations are not high in at the very least getting someone to see what the Catholic Church really does teach. I am sorry if my direct approach chased you away. It was not intended to. I am confident in what I believe. I will pray for you while you are gone. Blessings
Cow of Shame Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 [quote name='thessalonian' date='Oct 12 2005, 03:04 PM']I will pray for you while you are gone. [right][snapback]755849[/snapback][/right] [/quote] fyi..no matter how sincerely you mean this, when ending a post where you are defending something you said, it smacks of arrogance. It's like you're trying to play some sort of holier-than-thou religious card.... Perhaps you can just pray for him & [i]not tell him[/i]. How's that for being a sneaky b@stard? Then, he can't, like...pray for you [i]and[/i] your mom & trump your prayer... heh
Theoketos Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 Vedeci Vaca, I am praying for you and your mom, by the power of Nuestra Senora de Pilar.
thessalonian Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 [quote name='Cow of Shame' date='Oct 12 2005, 03:16 PM']fyi..no matter how sincerely you mean this, when ending a post where you are defending something you said, it smacks of arrogance. It's like you're trying to play some sort of holier-than-thou religious card.... Perhaps you can just pray for him & [i]not tell him[/i]. How's that for being a sneaky b@stard? Then, he can't, like...pray for you [i]and[/i] your mom & trump your prayer... heh [right][snapback]755872[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Well I suppose if that is the way you want to read it you will see me as arrogant no matter what I say. To each his own. I'll pray for you too.
Cow of Shame Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 (edited) [quote name='Theoketos' date='Oct 12 2005, 03:29 PM']Vedeci Vaca, I am praying for you and your mom, by the power of Nuestra Senora de Pilar. [right][snapback]755899[/snapback][/right] [/quote] and I pray for you, your mom, [i]and[/i] your grandma, by the power of Senor Grayskull. beat that, if you can. Edited October 12, 2005 by Cow of Shame
Cow of Shame Posted October 12, 2005 Posted October 12, 2005 [quote name='thessalonian' date='Oct 12 2005, 03:55 PM']Well I suppose if that is the way you want to read it you will see me as arrogant no matter what I say. To each his own. I'll pray for you too. [right][snapback]755952[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Riiiiight. hahahahaha.
Paladin D Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 Unfortunately, the [b]"I'll pray for you"[/b] line is used too much as a holier-than-thou tactic. I'm not implying that [b]Thess[/b] intends this, but too many people use it for that purpose. Best thing to say is [b]"May Christ be with you"[/b].
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 [quote name='Paladin D' date='Oct 14 2005, 11:28 AM']Best thing to say is [b]"May Christ be with you"[/b]. [right][snapback]758305[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Or [b]"May the Force be with you"[/b], Lord Vader.
Paladin D Posted October 14, 2005 Posted October 14, 2005 [quote name='1337 k4th0l1x0r' date='Oct 14 2005, 02:51 PM']Or [b]"May the Force be with you"[/b], Lord Vader. [right][snapback]758525[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Exactly!
Benedict Posted October 15, 2005 Posted October 15, 2005 [quote name='Jesuspaidtheprice' date='Oct 12 2005, 07:14 AM']To me, there was an implicit rejection of gambling when the Roman soldiers cast lots for Jesus' garments. [/quote] The first thing I thought about was Matthias. And they appointed two, Joseph, called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. And praying, they said: Thou, Lord, who knowest the heart of all men, shew whether of these two thou hast chosen, To take the place of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas hath by transgression fallen, that he might go to his own place. And they gave them lot, and the lot fell upon Matthias, and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. Acts 1:23-26 Sure, they were not casting lots for money. Money seems so trivial compared to a bishopric.
Jesuspaidtheprice Posted October 16, 2005 Author Posted October 16, 2005 Sorry for having taken up your time. I've decided I'm right where i need to be. I've found some folks at "Call to Action" who are helpful with what Catholics are all about. God be with you on your journey! JPTP
Theoketos Posted October 16, 2005 Posted October 16, 2005 [quote name='Jesuspaidtheprice' date='Oct 16 2005, 02:49 PM']Sorry for having taken up your time. I've decided I'm right where i need to be. I've found some folks at "Call to Action" who are helpful with what Catholics are all about. God be with you on your journey! JPTP [right][snapback]760342[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You can not be serious... You know as well as all of us that CTA does not teach what the magisterium teaches at all. In some dioceses the group has been excommunicated.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 16, 2005 Posted October 16, 2005 [quote name='jgirl' date='Oct 12 2005, 09:49 AM']You know, I've lost more with my current stock that I own than I have gambling. [right][snapback]755158[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Ditto.
Brother Adam Posted October 16, 2005 Posted October 16, 2005 [quote name='Theoketos' date='Oct 16 2005, 04:01 PM']You know as well as all of us that CTA does not teach what the magisterium teaches at all. [right][snapback]760347[/snapback][/right] [/quote] He does? Is he Catholic? I thought he was a non-Catholic.
MichaelFilo Posted October 16, 2005 Posted October 16, 2005 Well, Call to Action is a fringe group with some serious anti-Catholic happenings; espeically like "Read the Bible, it's the most anti-Catholic book out there". Anyways, yes, don't go. Thess, it's not a matter of what you meant, it's a matter of what you seemed to have meant, and we should always try to come across in the best light possible, so it would be prudent to apologize, and explain your real intention. Anyways, gambling. Well, I can agree, it's not much different from having a night out. Equally so, you don't want to have a night out every night, and day, and moment of your life, making it destructive. Same with gambling. I should note, very few of the Saints indulged in worldly pleasure. So, be it gambling, or be it listening to an opera recital, they tended to have better uses for their money/time. God bless, Mikey
thessalonian Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I certainly apologize for any offense. But I don't think it was me that made him leave. He seems to not want to have a frank an honest discussion about his questions. He apparently has a pre-concieved notion and CTA is supporting his notion. Oh well.
Tony Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I'm so happy I found a way to sell play money on pokerstars, so I don't have to deposit any of my own money would be sweet if I could win some big tournament some day
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