toledo_jesus Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 Belloc once observed that "We sit by and watch the Barbarian, we tolerate him; in the long stretches of peace we are not afraid. We are tickled by his irreverence, his comic inversion of our old certitudes and our fixed creeds refreshes us; we laugh. But as we laugh, we are watched by large and awful faces from beyond: and on these faces there is no smile."
Luthien Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 I don't need to be reading stuff like this after today...
toledo_jesus Posted October 18, 2005 Author Posted October 18, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 18 2005, 06:17 PM']Are you stoned? [right][snapback]762907[/snapback][/right] [/quote] no, I'm at work... what was stoned sounding about that?
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Oct 18 2005, 07:23 PM']no, I'm at work... what was stoned sounding about that? [right][snapback]762946[/snapback][/right] [/quote] It's philosophy...I've always thought philosophers were either brilliant or stoners...and since I haven't a clue what Belloc was talking about, I considered it a drug-induced statement from you...of course, I wasn't being serious.
toledo_jesus Posted October 18, 2005 Author Posted October 18, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 18 2005, 07:27 PM']It's philosophy...I've always thought philosophers were either brilliant or stoners...and since I haven't a clue what Belloc was talking about, I considered it a drug-induced statement from you...of course, I wasn't being serious. [right][snapback]762951[/snapback][/right] [/quote] yeah, I don't like philosophers. but that quote seems to be talking about putting up with those who are irreverent or make fun of the faith. drugs are for losers. I drink.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Oct 18 2005, 07:28 PM']drugs are for losers. I drink. [right][snapback]762952[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That should be the new D.A.R.E. motto.
journeyman Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Oct 18 2005, 06:28 PM']yeah, I don't like philosophers. but that quote seems to be talking about putting up with those who are irreverent or make fun of the faith. drugs are for losers. I drink. [right][snapback]762952[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Philosophers search for the deeper meanings, sometimes they get lost, sometimes they see clearer than the rest of us. Is that non-smiling face the face of the barbarian? Who after having infiltrated our defenses through our smiling tolerance intends to destroy us and all we stand for? not knowing the context, that is a scary reading of the excerpt. Lay off the booze, it is every bit a drug as my tobacco (just because the pot is black doesn't mean it can't warn the kettle), and for those who don't have a natural tolerance, every bit as addictive and damaging as the controlled substances
Socrates Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 [quote name='journeyman' date='Oct 18 2005, 06:38 PM']Lay off the booze, it is every bit a drug as my tobacco (just because the pot is black doesn't mean it can't warn the kettle), and for those who don't have a natural tolerance, every bit as addictive and damaging as the controlled substances [right][snapback]762966[/snapback][/right] [/quote] There is nothing at all wrong with drinking in moderation. Studies have consistantly shown that a drink or two a day has positive health benefits. The same cannot be said of tobacco, marijuana, or any "hard drugs."
termitescoming4u! Posted October 18, 2005 Posted October 18, 2005 (edited) [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Oct 18 2005, 04:43 PM']Belloc once observed that "We sit by and watch the Barbarian, we tolerate him; in the long stretches of peace we are not afraid. We are tickled by his irreverence, his comic inversion of our old certitudes and our fixed creeds refreshes us; we laugh. But as we laugh, we are watched by large and awful faces from beyond: and on these faces there is no smile." [right][snapback]762895[/snapback][/right] [/quote] this is sure scary. does the awful faces belong to third party players who are silently eyeing the happy and joyful first players before they make their move on them? Edited October 18, 2005 by termitescoming4u!
Lil Red Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 it sounds like something Stephen King would write.
RootbeerDumdums Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 The quote speaks of condescension. As we laugh at those who make fun of beliefs we secretly hold dear, always a stern face reminds us not to give in to the crowd, the "barbarian," and to not laugh when something is not funny. Imagine if someone made a dig about Catholicism in your precense. You laugh because all the non-Catholics around you are laughing too. However, you suddenly see your priest. He has a face with "no smile." Imagine how terrible, to you in that moment, that "large and awful" face would be. I don't know about yall, but I'd be feelin' pretty low. So I think its talking about keeping tabs on ourselves, so others don't have to do it for us.
StColette Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 18 2005, 06:27 PM']It's philosophy...I've always thought philosophers were either brilliant or stoners.. [right][snapback]762951[/snapback][/right] [/quote] ROFLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL
Pio Nono Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 JMJ 10/18 - St. Luke [quote name='Raphael' date='Oct 18 2005, 06:27 PM']It's philosophy...I've always thought philosophers were either brilliant or stoners...[right][snapback]762951[/snapback][/right] [/quote] But what if I'm a philosopher, but I'm neither brilliant nor a stoner...?
missionseeker Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 I have to admit when I read the title I thought "This" is a very nifty little pronoun.
toledo_jesus Posted October 19, 2005 Author Posted October 19, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Oct 18 2005, 07:43 PM']There is nothing at all wrong with drinking in moderation. Studies have consistantly shown that a drink or two a day has positive health benefits. The same cannot be said of tobacco, marijuana, or any "hard drugs." [right][snapback]762970[/snapback][/right] [/quote] journeyman is my dad, he's allowed to dispense with the fatherly advice. I don't get drunk or anything, let's get that out there.
Aloysius Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 I love belloc I think RootbeerDumdums is pretty much right in his interpretation
Carrie Posted October 19, 2005 Posted October 19, 2005 [quote name='Socrates' date='Oct 18 2005, 08:43 PM']The same cannot be said of tobacco, marijuana, or any "hard drugs." [right][snapback]762970[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Actually, marijuana is quite useful for cancer patients. [quote]it sounds like something Stephen King would write.[/quote] I thought the same thing!
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