The Gideons

[Brother Adam]

The Gideons are handing out Bibles here in our main classroom building.

They are NKJV Bibles with the sinner's prayer and personal assurance of once you are saved you are always said in the back. You can typically see students arguing with them at any given time. lol.

[tojo]

Gideons, what fun! Those little NT, Psalms, and Proverbs, are so convenient to carry around........ they're small

[Brother Adam]

convenient and heretical.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Oct 20 2005, 01:34 PM']convenient and heretical.
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With a slight mod they are less hertical.

[tojo]

[quote name='Theoketos' date='Oct 20 2005, 02:46 PM']With a slight mod they are less hertical.
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I don't mind the NT, Psalms, and Proverbs, since they don't pretend to be the whole Bible. But I don't mind Protestant Bibles much at all. When I was Protestant, I always considered all footnotes to be suspect (and still consider much of those in the NAB to be also).....

[Dreamweaver]

For the past two years, I've managed to stay away from their ambush points. A few weeks ago, one of my friends would run into them several times a day. I didn't even see the Gideon guys. Is there a similar Catholic group that hands out Catholic Bibles? Course, many of the protestant groups that hand out bibles don't necessarily believe in the necessity of the sacraments or church.

[Nathan]

It would be nice if the Gideons could at least hand out a NT/Psalms/Proverbs translation that all Christians -- not just Protestants -- more or less agree upon, like the NRSV.

[tojo]

[quote name='Nathan' date='Oct 20 2005, 05:07 PM']It would be nice if the Gideons could at least hand out a NT/Psalms/Proverbs translation that all Christians -- not just Protestants -- more or less agree upon, like the NRSV.
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the NRSV? Ugh... I've never agreed with that, as a Protestant or a Catholic....

[Nathan]

Yeah, yeah, inclusive language, I know. But aside from that one problem, I really believe the NRSV -- the work of Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant, and Jewish scholars -- to be a top-notch translation. It is very literal, and quite scholarly. It's certainly not my first choice, but I like it a lot.

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[tojo]

[quote name='Nathan' date='Oct 20 2005, 05:19 PM']Yeah, yeah, inclusive language, I know. But aside from that one problem, I really believe the NRSV -- the work of Roman Catholic, Eastern Orthodox, Protestant, and Jewish scholars -- to be a top-notch translation. It is very literal, and quite scholarly. It's certainly not my first choice, but I like it a lot.
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Well, it has much to be said for it...... it was translated by non-believers from all those faith traditions..........

[Nathan]

As was the much-revered RSV.

The Hebrew and Greek Scriptures are what they are. It is possible for Catholics and Protestants to agree on a clear, literal English-language translation of them.

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[tojo]

[quote name='Nathan' date='Oct 20 2005, 05:24 PM']As was the much-revered RSV.
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I want a New Jerusalem I think.....

[Nathan]

You probably wouldn't like the NJB, as it has the same problem the NRSV does: inclusive language.

I'd go with the original 1966 Jerusalem Bible if I were you. Harder to find, but well worth it. (If you can't find one, I may have an extra copy kicking around that could use a good home.)

[tojo]

[quote name='Nathan' date='Oct 20 2005, 05:36 PM']You probably wouldn't like the NJB, as it has the same problem the NRSV does: inclusive language.

I'd go with the original 1966 Jerusalem Bible if I were you. Harder to find, but well worth it. (If you can't find one, I may have an extra copy kicking around that could use a good home.)
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Does the NJB have inclusive language? I didn't know that. The deacon at my student parish was carriying a NJB around Tuesday and I glanced through it (in the Psalms) and thought that it was really beautiful.....


So JBs are hard to get?

[tojo]

[quote name='Nathan' date='Oct 20 2005, 05:36 PM']You probably wouldn't like the NJB, as it has the same problem the NRSV does: inclusive language.

I'd go with the original 1966 Jerusalem Bible if I were you. Harder to find, but well worth it. (If you can't find one, I may have an extra copy kicking around that could use a good home.)
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Does the NJB have inclusive language? I didn't know that. The deacon at my student parish was carriying a NJB around Tuesday and I glanced through it (in the Psalms) and thought that it was really beautiful.....


So JBs are hard to get?

[Nathan]

Yes, the New Jerusalem Bible is a translation that makes use of inclusive language, just like the NRSV. That's why, when Catholics recommend the original Jerusalem Bible, they usually add "NOT the New Jerusalem!"

Other than that fact, I'm not very knowledgeable about the NJB -- I've never read it. I do know, however, that the original JB is a gorgeous, poetic, scholarly translation. Simply beautiful, and highly revered. (One really cool factor is that the great J.R.R. Tolkien served on the translation's editorial board -- he did Job.)

The Jerusalem Bible is generally pretty hard-to-find these days. Doubleday still publishes it, but the number of copies they put out is nowhere near what it was in decades past. Your best bet would actually be to hit the second-hand bookstores, which is how I found my copies. I have never seen it in a chain bookstore.

[tojo]

I looked on Amazon, and you can get all sorts of used ones cheap, and a new hardcover is $20.

[Nathan]

Well, there's always the Internet.