photosynthesis Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Some say Americans all should be proficient in English, and if you don't speak English, you're not really an American. Some countries have multiple official languages, such as South Africa, which has 11 official languages! I don't think we should have an official language at all.
Guest T-Bone Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 [i][u][font="Geneva"][color=blue][b]ESPERANTO!!![/color][/font][/FONT][/u][/i][/b]
termitescoming4u! Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 well, it's good to have an official language so that citizens of that country can communicate better and understand each other better. Having different languages have the effect of dividing people by making them ethnocentric about their language and identity. For example, war-torn countries like Congo are constantly fighting civil wars because of language and cultural differences. So, I don't see how multiple languages will be beneficial to a country since it's known to divide and pit different ethnic groups against each other. At least in my country, Nigeria, it brings disunity.
Anastasia13 Posted October 22, 2005 Posted October 22, 2005 Either English, bilingual English and Spanish, or Spanglish but that might take a few years.
philothea Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 I am very much in favor of everyone in a the nation speaking one language. Otherwise you wind up with ghettos full of second-class citizens who can't interact with the greater part of the country. BTW, I am not remotely anti-immigrant! I would like to see open immigration.
Socrates Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 English has been the "unofficial official" language of America since its founding, and there is no reason to change that. Making English the official language would only be necessary because of those who want to make the country officially "multi-lingual." If one does not know English, he cannot be an informed American citizen. In times past, immigrants came here speaking Italian, German, and other languages, but all had to learn English. Why is this considered a problem now?
Socrates Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 [quote name='termitescoming4u!' date='Oct 22 2005, 04:33 PM']well, it's good to have an official language so that citizens of that country can communicate better and understand each other better. Having different languages have the effect of dividing people by making them ethnocentric about their language and identity. For example, war-torn countries like Congo are constantly fighting civil wars because of language and cultural differences. So, I don't see how multiple languages will be beneficial to a country since it's known to divide and pit different ethnic groups against each other. At least in my country, Nigeria, it brings disunity. [right][snapback]767408[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Exactly. "Multi-linguism" is usually supported by "multicultural" liberals, who despise America and want to divide ethnic groups against "white" America.
Aloysius Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 LATIN! make it Latin! that'd be hilarious... then all the political officials and stuff would all have to know Latin!
photosynthesis Posted October 23, 2005 Author Posted October 23, 2005 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Oct 22 2005, 09:53 PM']LATIN! make it Latin! that'd be hilarious... then all the political officials and stuff would all have to know Latin! [right][snapback]767575[/snapback][/right] [/quote] that would be cool!!! and the Holy Father can be our president!
son_of_angels Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 I totally think Latin should be our official language (along with all the Senators being appointed by Bishops, etc.). A good 'ol Catholic theocracy never hurt anybody...
OldFashionedGirl Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Hahah! Latin definately....it might be over some of the Libs' heads though.
Didacus Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 YES! They should adopt French as their official language! VIVE LE FRANCAIS!!!
son_of_angels Posted October 23, 2005 Posted October 23, 2005 Quae Francia lingua est? Barbara et foedissima lingua.
Dreamweaver Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Well, considering that so much of what goes on in America is in English, I think it would be nearly impossible to get around without knowing basic English. That aside, I don't see what would hurt with having English be an official language. A tidbit that I learned in intercultural communications; an equal opportunity workplace for the most part does not allow workers to speak in different languages with one another (the one exception I can think of is translators working with clients). Talking in a language not understood by all workers creates suspicion and doesn't really help with teamwork and communication. Of course the rule doesn't count during breaks and lunch. I never knew this until that class.
toledo_jesus Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 One has only to look at Quebec in Canada to realize that allowing another language to be official is a bad idea. It contributes mightily to disunity. Did you know most immigrants resisted like anything when the idiots wanted to set up schools that taught in their native language? They want their kids to learn English because that's the language of their new home. At the turn of the 20th century, this talk of separate schools was going around. It's an old idea, and still very stupid. It is absolutely ludicrous for a country to change its language for immigrants. That makes no frickin' sense. I don't want to learn spanish to order a taco in America. I want to learn spanish so that when I go somewhere that speaks spanish, I can get by.
jasJis Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 Most of my family are immigrants. They all learned English. I've hired tons' of Mexican employees. I know a bit of Spainish, but they all insist on speaking as much English as possible, and I've never had anyone work for me for more than 6 months that didn't learn passable English. I like the situation we have now. English is the unofficial official language with lot's of Spainish since we have lot's of Spainish speaking people. If we start making 'official" exceptions, we lose the quality that makes people of many countries and cultures into Americans.
son_of_angels Posted October 24, 2005 Posted October 24, 2005 I am horrified at the concept of making a non-classical language, a language which defines culture, rather than being defined by it, into an official language It should be Latin or nought...And all the Universities should be required to instruct in it. (I say this all with tongue in cheek)
jmjtina Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 i'm all about pig latin......wait. never mind.
Socrates Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 Perhaps someone would care to explain the advantages of having no official language or multiple official languages in this country.
Maria Posted November 1, 2005 Posted November 1, 2005 [quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Oct 24 2005, 10:26 AM']One has only to look at Quebec in Canada to realize that allowing another language to be official is a bad idea. It contributes mightily to disunity. [right][snapback]768966[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I'm from Quebec... What would you have suggested? The British conquered New France. To avoid creating more problems than necessary (sure the conquerers were English, but the residents were French), they allowed the inhabitants to keep their language, religion and culture. Since a significant part of the population of Canada was French-speaking, and officially recognized, what should they have done when choosing an official language? I'm curious for your opinion. Oh, and it's not that I think the situation is ideal. Ottawa, at least the official stuff, is very nicely biligual. Montreal and the rest of Quebec, on the other hand... Anglophones feel somewhat like immigrants here.
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