Philosopher Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 [url="http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051030/ts_afp/germanyhistorywwiibritain_051030143459"]http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20051030/ts_af...in_051030143459[/url] Pretty awsome!
photosynthesis Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 a Protestant church named after Our Lady?
zabbazooey Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 It said "mass" and "bishop: and whatnot, I assumed it was Catholic
Philippe Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 [quote]The Protestant church was hit and finally collapsed two days after the first wave of bombing.[/quote] thats weird... maybe it was protestant and is now Catholic?
zabbazooey Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 No, it is Catholic. The news misprinted. I looked through the picture show on Yahoo! and saw a picture of Cardinal Karl Lehmann, who is a Roman Catholic Cardinal.
tojo Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 I followed links to another story about it, it's Lutheran... well, the bishop it mentions is, so I assume it is also...
zabbazooey Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 Gahhh then why do they have bishops and Mass?!?!?!
avemaria40 Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 (edited) if i'm not mistaken, Lutherans call their services mass, or I think i read that they did, correct me if i'm wrong. And many Protestants have bishops, including Anglicans, Episcopalians, Methodists, and i think Lutherans as well. And I think Martin Luther believed in Mary's perpetual virginity so i don't think it would be that odd for a Lutheran church to be named after our Lady, they name their churches after saints as well. Edited October 30, 2005 by avemaria40
zabbazooey Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 I know it's just so utterly confusing sometimes. :
Anastasia13 Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 (edited) [quote name='avemaria40' date='Oct 30 2005, 02:15 PM']if i'm not mistaken, Lutherans call their services mass, or I think i read that they did, correct me if i'm wrong. And many Protestants have bishops, including Anglicans, Episcopalians, Methodists, and i think Lutherans as well. And I think Martin Luther believed in Mary's perpetual virginity so i don't think it would be that odd for a Lutheran church to be named after our Lady, they name their churches after saints as well. [right][snapback]774157[/snapback][/right] [/quote] There are at least some Lutheran bishops. At Christ Lutheran or any of the couple of other ELCA Lutheran churches I have been to, I did not hear the service being called mass. I know that Lutherans do have some kind of saint listing but I've never seen a Lutheran church named after a saint or after Mary, of course that could be different in Europe from the western U.S. I checked the name in the picture and googled it. It is a Protestant church. [quote]Frauenkirche. (Church of our Lady). Germany's largest Protestant church, the Frauenkirche was completed in 1743. J. S. Bach was one of the first people to play the Silberman organ when the church opened. On February 13, 1945 when Dresden was bombed, the church wasn't hit, but collapsed 2 days later from fire damage. In 1992, work on reconstruction began and is due to be completed in 2005. One of the most interesting features is the dome which is built entirely of stone, and nicknamed the "stone bell".[/quote] from [url="http://www.reformationtours.com/site/490868/page/180552"]http://www.reformationtours.com/site/490868/page/180552[/url] Edited October 30, 2005 by Light and Truth
zabbazooey Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 We have a Lutheran church here named St. Mark
tojo Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 [quote name='zabbazooey' date='Oct 30 2005, 04:44 PM']We have a Lutheran church here named St. Mark [right][snapback]774223[/snapback][/right] [/quote] There's a Lutheran St. Mark's and a St. Luke's here...
zabbazooey Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 Same here! I went to a counselor at St Luke's and it was before I converted and I was so surprised to learn it wasn't Catholic
Maria Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 I was in central Germany the first week of wold youth day (should that go on the oxymoron thread?), and it seems that the Luthernan church there is pretty close to the Catholic church. On the other hand, the Lutheran church in Sweden is almost as secular as the society...
zabbazooey Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 I was confused because here there are no lutheran bishops or lutheran masses etc.
Maria Posted October 30, 2005 Posted October 30, 2005 There definitely are Lutheran bishops. In fact, the Lutheran bishop of the diocese we were staying in greeted us. And the Lutheran service there, as far as I could tell, was very, very similar to our mass. I wouldn't be surprised if they did call it a mass.
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