Church Allegiances

[Lil Red]

Should churches fly the American flag? Should they fly the Vatican flag as well? If yes to both, which flag is placed in the higher honor?

[photosynthesis]

the Vatican flag

[photosynthesis]

my parish back home has an American flag on one side of the sanctuary, and a Vatican flag on another side.

[franciscanheart]

there is both a vatican flag and an american flag in my church. i think it important that we recognize our country but we can never forget Rome. technically there are laws about which can fly higher but in my opinion, two flags on the same length poles (not necessarily flying high outside) is cool.

[franciscanheart]

[quote name='photosynthesis' date='Nov 8 2005, 04:39 PM']my parish back home has an American flag on one side of the sanctuary, and a Vatican flag on another side.
[right][snapback]782864[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]
thats what we have. i like it.

[Brother Adam]

I believe the GIRM and the "Built on Living Stones" documents both talk about this. I know that an American flag is permitted.

[Lil Red]

is there a rule you must fly the vatican flag?

[franciscanheart]

i think another question is whether we are talking about inside the church or on the outside...

[Lil Red]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Nov 8 2005, 03:39 PM']I believe the GIRM and the "Built on Living Stones" documents both talk about this. I know that an American flag is permitted.
[right][snapback]782869[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]
if it is permitted, whose flag is flown higher? nevermind the "law" of our country, whose [b]should[/b] we fly higher?

[Lil Red]

[quote name='hugheyforlife' date='Nov 8 2005, 03:40 PM']i think another question is whether we are talking about inside the church or on the outside...
[right][snapback]782871[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]
i'm talking about flying the flag outside, not inside.

[cappie]

I am against any flags in churches, with the possible exception of some days when thanksgiving for the country is a focus. Membership of the Church is not a national thing and there is no flag for the Body of Christ.

[Lil Red]

[quote name='cappie' date='Nov 8 2005, 03:45 PM']I am against any flags in churches, with the possible exception of some days when thanksgiving for the country is a focus. Membership of the Church is not a national thing and there is no flag for the Body of Christ.[right][snapback]782878[/snapback][/right][/quote]
so neither flag?

[cappie]

[quote name='Lil Red' date='Nov 9 2005, 08:48 AM']so neither flag?
[right][snapback]782884[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]

Not really although I wouldn't go to the barracades over it. I think that the Papal Flag is the flag of the Vatican City State although I could be mistaken. As I said I'm just against national flags in a place of worship but I wouldn't have a fit over it. :

[Lil Red]

you bring up a good point, cappie, thank you. something to think about.

[franciscanheart]

i like the flags in the church.

[Lil Red]

both of them? i have never seen the vatican flag flown in conjunction with my church, inside or out. just the american flag, both inside and outside.

[Fidei Defensor]

Ive been seeing the Vatican flag flown more often around here. My Church has an American flag and Vatican flag in the back of church on either side of the door. But ive seen the Vatican flag being flown at the Diocese headquarters and such.

Legally, the Vatican flag can be flown at the same height as the American flag, as can any state or foreign nation's flag. Technically, by international agreement, it is illegal to fly any one nation's flag higher than the other during time of peace. (In reguards to the American flag being higher than the Vatican flag.. however, the Vatican flag deserves to be higher )

[Lil Red]

thank you fidei!

[Jazz4jesus]

I think my church has 3 flags (Texas Vatican and US) and they are all flown at the same height. I cant rember exactly since its been a couple weeks sincce i been home. But I know if we have all 3 they are all at same Height. Texas is special like that and are allowed to do that, We can do so much cause we were a country at one time

[Dreamweaver]

I think our church has the American and the Vatican flags in the back of the sanctuary, one on each side. But I could have sworn that I've also seen them in the entrance.... They're the same height.

Has anyone flown a Vatican flag at home without an American flag?

Has anyone noticed that many Protestant churches fly a Christian flag? (white, blue canton with a red cross upon the canton)? I just saw that it was invented in 1897. Anyone know when the Vatican flag was made?