What Anti-Catholicism?

[Guest Rick777]

Yah so did I, its just a matter of really understanding what God teaches

[Ash Wednesday]

The sort of "anti-Catholicism" I experienced in high school (a long time ago, far, far away....) was very subtle. I went to public school and had friends who were Southern Baptist and all went to the same church, except me, the rogue Catholic. They were happy to be friends with me, but in the end never really considered me as being entirely "one of them" -- in particular, whenever the subject of religion came up they buttoned up like nervous little clams. At the time I didn't understand what the problem was. It wasn't until college I discovered that there were Christians that REALLY didn't agree with what Catholics did and believed. And while it wasn't blatant mockery and stemmed from theological differences, it would have been nice if my friends would have been more willing to express what their hangups were.

In the end though, it's equally likely that their eventual coldness had just as much to do with my artistic freakish mind, I suppose.

Oh yeah, lest I forget: our church had Fred Phelps and the rest of his "God Hates Fags" gang come and picket us

[PhillyMatt]

Nothing like getting picketed by a bunch of ignorant wackos....

Do you think all the people who are anti-Catholic are also anti-Semetic?

[missionseeker]

I don't know but I have heard many wacky things preached ( my Grandmother loved to us to her church, I just have recently figured out why)

[PhillyMatt]

[quote name='missionseeker' date='Nov 16 2005, 03:03 AM']I don't know but I have heard many wacky things preached ( my Grandmother loved to us to her church, I just have recently figured out why)
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Preached? I said picketed..... :

[Guest Rick777]

jk

[missionseeker]

Yeah, and she didn't love tous to her church either, she loved to take us to her church lol

[dandy777]

I think there is one major fault: [b]lack of dialogue[/b].

For example, I am European and have been raised in a Catholic country. 95% of the population is Catholic and many take it for granted that everyone is Catholic. We have loads of churches, church schools, institutes and learning centres and the Church as an institution is highly respected in my country.

However, there were many faults within the Catholic system which are now backfiring. For example, many people who are illiterate or coming from a low eductional level have never actually questioned or tried to delve in the teachings of the Church not just as doctrine but also with regards to rites (their purpose and meaning). Unfortunately, the Church hasn't taken lots of hassles to explain such things neither. So even [b]within[/b] our church, many people don't understand what we actually believe.

Thus, I don't blame Protestants who can't realise and understand the depth and warmth of our beliefs and rites. I do condemn the harsh sentiments of hatred though.

In the past two / three decades, we have witnessed an incerease in Christian (non-Catholic) and Islamic communites in our country though. This is slowly producing a rift that is dividing the people into different worlds. That's why I believe in dialogue. Only dialogue can help us brigde the differences and acknowledge similarities. I firmly believe that when Protestants and Catholics pray together, there is an awesome flow of worship exalting our God.

[missionseeker]

[quote name='dandy777' date='Nov 16 2005, 11:32 AM']I think there is one major fault: [b]lack of dialogue[/b].

For example, I am European and have been raised in a Catholic country. 95% of the population is Catholic and many take it for granted that everyone is Catholic. We have loads of churches, church schools, institutes and learning centres and the Church as an institution is highly respected in my country.

However, there were many faults within the Catholic system which are now backfiring. For example, many people who are illiterate or coming from a low eductional level have never actually questioned or tried to delve in the teachings of the Church not just as doctrine but also with regards to rites (their purpose and meaning). Unfortunately, the Church hasn't taken lots of hassles to explain such things neither. So even [b]within[/b] our church, many people don't understand what we actually believe.

Thus, I don't blame Protestants who can't realise and understand the depth and warmth of our beliefs and rites. I do condemn the harsh sentiments of hatred though.

In the past two / three decades, we have witnessed an incerease in Christian (non-Catholic) and Islamic communites in our country though. This is slowly producing a rift that is dividing the people into different worlds. That's why I believe in dialogue. Only dialogue can help us brigde the differences and acknowledge similarities. I firmly believe that when Protestants and Catholics pray together, there is an awesome flow of worship exalting our God.
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You can only have dialogue wuth someone who [b]wants[/b] to talk. Around here, (Southern U.S. ) most Protestants would rather eat dirt than talk to a Catholic. Some do talk, but they don't listen to the defense of the Faith. They are only trying to convert you and save you from Hell. (thier words)

[toledo_jesus]

Dspen2005 is in Philly...he could tell you about some things he has personally been witness to.

There is some messed up stuff going on in Philadelphia, believe you me.

[Church Punk]

Another experiance I have had was during college, For some reason the JW's (Jahova's Witness) got tables in the main walk way of the campus. They began their attempts of converting people. When a group of Catholics approached them they claimed that we were all vampires because we drank of the blood of Christ.

[cmotherofpirl]

My aunt was a Southern Baptist. Every time we saw her after she got religion she would explain that my mother and I were going to hell because we were catholic. She worked her church for the preacher many years, and upon retirement her church had a party and we the relatives were duly invited. The sermon at this event had snide remarks about catholics. I guess someone had warned the preacher there were heathens in the audience . Afterward my father said something to my aunt [ his sister] and she said the preacher ALWAYS mentioned the going-to-hell catholics. When my father pointed out that in 50 years he had never heard a sermon in a catholic church about protestants my aunt did not quite believe him.
She continually discussed our demise in hell til the day she died.

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Nov 18 2005, 11:03 AM']She continually discussed our demise in hell til the day she died.
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ahhhh...refreshing. It's so nice when your family is open about things like that.

For example, my protestant family members NEVER told us that we're going to Hell. I had to figure that out for myself. For years I thought we went to Heaven! You're so lucky Cmom...

[journeyman]

I'd like to think you're on the right path . . . and God willing, won't fall off.

Let's all say three Aves for faith, hope and charity

[tojo]

[quote name='PhillyMatt' date='Nov 16 2005, 01:59 AM']Nothing like getting picketed by a bunch of ignorant wackos....

Do you think all the people who are anti-Catholic are also anti-Semetic?
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No, tons of Fundies and Evangelicals are totally in love with the Jews, although they do of course believe they need to be converted.

[avemaria40]

some anti Catholics actually think we're the anti-Semitic ones

[Laudate_Dominum]

I think its funny that a lot of the main defenders of the faith that we have used to be anti-catholic. people like scott hahn.

[avemaria40]

Well, it makes sense, because the former anti-Catholics have been there and done that and they love their new Faith more than ever and want to defend that.

[dandy777]

[quote name='missionseeker' date='Nov 18 2005, 09:58 AM']You can only have dialogue wuth someone who [b]wants[/b] to talk. Around here, (Southern U.S. ) most Protestants would rather eat dirt than talk to a Catholic. Some do talk, but they don't listen to the defense of the Faith. They are only trying to convert you and save you from Hell. (thier words)
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That's true MS! However, there must be dialogue among the top ranks and then [b]they[/b] have to teach their people. Yeah, I heard the going-to-hell thing even the vampire stuff! Well, one should listen to the testimony of the guy who was raised from the dead during one of Reinhard Bonnke's meetings and we can see who he saw in hell!

However, what I find more confusing is the Mormonic faith! In my country there is the presence of this church too. Its believers have different beliefs than the ones we hold even though they call themselves Christians. Does anyone know what is the Roman Catholic Church's stand about this faith?

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='dandy777' date='Nov 21 2005, 03:37 PM']That's true MS! However, there must be dialogue among the top ranks and then [b]they[/b] have to teach their people. Yeah, I heard the going-to-hell thing even the vampire stuff! Well, one should listen to the testimony of the guy who was raised from the dead during one of Reinhard Bonnke's meetings and we can see who he saw in hell! 

However, what I find more confusing is the Mormonic faith! In my country there is the presence of this church too. Its believers have different beliefs than the ones we hold even though they call themselves Christians.  Does anyone know what is the Roman Catholic Church's stand about this faith?
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Mormons are not christians. I believe the topic is thoroughly covered in our apologetic section.