Snarf Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Let's just say I was... surprised by how it turned out. Most of the songs are just really depressing; one about a guy who fetches a rose for his love, and falls off a cliff in the process. Another about a mob cheering for a man to jump off a bridge, and he gets pushed off. A song called "Don't die before I do", which is quite beautiful. Not as good as their previous ones, for sure, but I still can't stop listening to it.
TheOliverOrder88 Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Rammstein are quite possibly the weirdest band nearly ever. Good music... I don't know about the lyrics.
Nathan Posted November 21, 2005 Posted November 21, 2005 Is this the one with the song "Amerika"? I'm not too knowledgeable about the band, but I've always liked what I've heard from them.
Socrates Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 [quote name='Snarf' date='Nov 21 2005, 12:57 AM']Most of the songs are just really depressing; one about a guy who fetches a rose for his love, and falls off a cliff in the process. Another about a mob cheering for a man to jump off a bridge, and he gets pushed off. A song called "Don't die before I do", which is quite beautiful. [right][snapback]796510[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Ah, those Krauts!
beatty07 Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 aren't these the guys that used to tour with human bodyparts in formaldehyde tanks onstage as decoration?
Lounge Daddy Posted November 22, 2005 Posted November 22, 2005 wow - this sounds like a nice album not
TheOliverOrder88 Posted November 24, 2005 Posted November 24, 2005 [quote name='Nathan' date='Nov 21 2005, 06:14 PM']Is this the one with the song "Amerika"? I'm not too knowledgeable about the band, but I've always liked what I've heard from them. [right][snapback]796999[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Nope, thats "Reise, Reise"... This is new.. Ummm....no one is a fan I guess?
FabdaEclectic Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 (edited) I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but there's a video circulating on the web of these guys live in concert...Midway through a song, the lead singer pulls down his pants and literally has anal sex with the male bassist....on stage. Now I know several news agencies have it listed as "stimulated"...but don't believe the hype...I saw the beginning of the video on some E&N website and got about 5 seconds in before I realized what was happening, nearly puked and turned it off... be aware... Edited November 28, 2005 by FabdaEclectic
inDEED Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 [quote name='FabdaEclectic' date='Nov 28 2005, 12:43 PM']I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but there's a video circulating on the web of these guys live in concert...Midway through a song, the lead singer pulls down his pants and literally has anal sex with the male bassist....on stage. Now I know several news agencies have it listed as "stimulated"...but don't believe the hype...I saw the beginning of the video on some E&N website and got about 5 seconds in before I realized what was happening, nearly puked and turned it off... be aware... [right][snapback]802711[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Thanks for the heads up, Fab... I knew this band was evil...They sound like trash, too...
TheOliverOrder88 Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 Well, wasn't a big fan anyway... I think made a song about having with a horse.
Church Punk Posted November 28, 2005 Posted November 28, 2005 I used to listen to some of their stuff, until i heard the translations to English! After a couple looks into the CD cover, it was enough to turn me off. Of course I started listening to this as well as Marylin Manson, during early high school before I was really hardcore Catholic. After I made that decision I through all of those CDs out.
Guest T-Bone Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 [quote name='FabdaEclectic' date='Nov 28 2005, 01:43 PM']I don't know if you're aware of this or not, but there's a video circulating on the web of these guys live in concert...Midway through a song, the lead singer pulls down his pants and literally has anal sex with the male bassist....on stage. Now I know several news agencies have it listed as "stimulated"...but don't believe the hype...I saw the beginning of the video on some E&N website and got about 5 seconds in before I realized what was happening, nearly puked and turned it off... be aware... [right][snapback]802711[/snapback][/right] [/quote] wouldn't that seriously inhibit playing the bass?
Church Punk Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 [quote]wouldn't that seriously inhibit playing the bass?[/quote] LOL
Ziggamafu Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 Rammstein is great (maybe not their message or the way in which it is presented, though). I don't speak German and I don't have much of a desire to learn the translations of their lyrics. I know some of it seems pretty bad. But the music is GREAT! And as Catholics, we can appreciate art for art's sake, and the beauty of anyone and anything. We obviously take issue with any objective falsehoods or evils, but we can still appreciate the ways in which even the falsehoods or evils are expressed, if that makes any sense. Both JP2 and B16 advocate this position in their writings... So the new CD isn't as good, huh? That smells of elderberries...my favorite is Mutter. Reise Reise had some good songs on it, though. P.S. - Though I have no idea what "Mutter"'s lyrics translate to, for some reason it translates in my head as being against abortion. Don't ask me!
inDEED Posted November 29, 2005 Posted November 29, 2005 [quote name='Ziggamafu' date='Nov 29 2005, 07:40 AM']Rammstein is great (maybe not their message or the way in which it is presented, though). I don't speak German and I don't have much of a desire to learn the translations of their lyrics. I know some of it seems pretty bad. But the music is GREAT! And as Catholics, we can appreciate art for art's sake, and the beauty of anyone and anything. We obviously take issue with any objective falsehoods or evils, but we can still appreciate the ways in which even the falsehoods or evils are expressed, if that makes any sense. Both JP2 and B16 advocate this position in their writings... So the new CD isn't as good, huh? That smells of elderberries...my favorite is Mutter. Reise Reise had some good songs on it, though. P.S. - Though I have no idea what "Mutter"'s lyrics translate to, for some reason it translates in my head as being against abortion. Don't ask me! [right][snapback]803762[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Did you not see Fab's post? Oh, I get it - you mean to say, "horrible" - but it came out as "great". It's all good, no worries.
Snarf Posted November 30, 2005 Author Posted November 30, 2005 All the members are straight, I think they've all been married in fact. The video in question is Bück Dich, and the phallus is fake. There is no intercourse, just charading the act. It's actually a sad song about coming to terms with one's homosexuality and questioning his identity. I'd post the English lyrics, but even allegorically they're not quite appropriate for this board. And the thing about the horse, he sings "I was in the mood for large animals, but I'm not in the mood to try it out".
philothea Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 Someday I will probably write an essay about the industrial music genre, and how to undersand it, and why the songs are not really as shocking as the surface lyrics may seem. I've been thinking about it for years.
TheOliverOrder88 Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 [quote name='philothea' date='Nov 30 2005, 01:17 AM']Someday I will probably write an essay about the industrial music genre, and how to undersand it, and why the songs are not really as shocking as the surface lyrics may seem. I've been thinking about it for years. [right][snapback]804842[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Please enlighten us. I am a lover of industrial music but I can never get past the lyrics. Static-X, Nine Inch Nails, and even Rammstein were once acouple of my favorite bands, now I am dismayed. Does anyone remember (or even know) the industrial feel to ZAO's Self-Titled, something I am looking for...
philothea Posted November 30, 2005 Posted November 30, 2005 [quote name='TheOliverOrder88' date='Nov 30 2005, 01:27 AM']Please enlighten us. I am a lover of industrial music but I can never get past the lyrics. Static-X, Nine Inch Nails, and even Rammstein were once acouple of my favorite bands, now I am dismayed. [right][snapback]804955[/snapback][/right] [/quote] If it was that simple I'd have written it already! The quickie version is that the "meaning" of the song is not the lyrics, though the lyrics are a metaphor for the meaning. The lyrics have three functions, at least. (1) to scare away anyone who only looks at the surface, (2) to shock the listener into a new mode of thinking, and (3) to reveal the underlying message -- which is not simple or obvious. Generally the message is more an emotion than an intellectual concept, which is not surprising, since we are talking about music. Maybe Snarf will have more to add. [quote name='TheOliverOrder88' date='Nov 30 2005, 01:27 AM']Does anyone remember (or even know) the industrial feel to ZAO's Self-Titled, something I am looking for... [right][snapback]804955[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Hmm. Just listened to some samples at iTunes, and nothing occurs to me. You might want to look at some of the iMixes that include ZAO. Or put them into Pandora.com and see what else comes up.
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