Catholics and Republicans

[Socrates]

I've made this thread in part for the benefit of Mr. Lowell, so that he can post and debate on this topic, rather than "hijacking" the "gay seminarian" thread to discuss this topic.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

ummm when you mean third party i assume that you mean a third party that supports catholic teaching?

[MC Just]

The thing is, if we didnt vote for bush, that mean more votes for Kerry, what are we suppose to do? we couldnt let that liberal fool become president.

[Paphnutius]

[quote name='MC Just' date='Nov 27 2005, 03:56 PM']The thing is, if we didnt vote for bush, that mean more votes for Kerry, what are we suppose to do? we couldnt let that liberal fool become president.
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MC could you please be a little more prudent with calling people geniuses. I am not defending Kerry, but that is uneccisary.

[Socrates]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Nov 27 2005, 03:50 PM']ummm when you mean third party i assume that you mean a third party that supports catholic teaching?
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Yes, a pro-life, conservative party such as the Constitution Party, not a pro-abort liberal party like the Greens.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

well the republicans are conservative and many are pro- life so
I so no real difference in voting between the constitutional party and the republican party, except that the republican party might actually put someone in office.

[DAF]

I'm all for promoting free religion in the public square, but the constitutionalists are theocrats to the point that it's almost comical. I used to be one but got sick of their intollerable fundamentalism. Anway, a bit off topic i know, just thought i'd contribute my 2 cents.

[toledo_jesus]

It would take a major realignment of the American people to put a third party candidate in office.

[Paphnutius]

[quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Nov 27 2005, 04:48 PM']It would take a major realignment of the American people to put a third party candidate in office.
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Like the 25% (give or take) of the population that professes to be Catholic actually vote in accord with their professed belief?

[photosynthesis]

I picked the first choice, Republican, because i tend to vote Republican. However, I think it really depends on the candidate. there are pro-life Democrats out there, and there are pro-choice republicans. It depends on where the candidate stands on the issues, particularly abortion, stem cell research, euthanasia, gay marriage and cloning.

[MC Just]

[quote name='Paphnutius' date='Nov 27 2005, 04:09 PM']MC could you please be a little more prudent with calling people geniuses. I am not defending Kerry, but that is uneccisary. 
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Sorry, I get that from my Priest. lol

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='MC Just' date='Nov 27 2005, 06:44 PM']Sorry, I get that from my Priest. lol
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[PhillyMatt]

I'd pray that next election that there will be a decent 3rd part candidate, hopefully libertarian. I at least want this candidate to have a decent command of the english language and to put on the guise of being vaguley intelligent I want a president who is intelligent, one that is a leader, and one who inspires.

But hey, if a rep or dem has the attributes, I'll vote for them. Whichever one I think will be best for the country as a WHOLE. That's the one I'd vote for.

[rkwright]

my problem lies in the 'pro life' yet pro capital punishment stance of most republicans...

[Socrates]

[quote name='rkwright' date='Nov 27 2005, 10:14 PM']my problem lies in the 'pro life' yet pro capital punishment stance of most republicans...
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The Church has always allowed for capital punishment for serious crimes, yet has always been opposed to abortion.

Abortion and euthanasia are always wrong, and rank higher in moral seriousness than capital punishment when making political choices.

[cmotherofpirl]

There should be an option for voting for whatever candidate is closest to church teaching.

[Jaime]

[quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Nov 27 2005, 04:48 PM']It would take a major realignment of the American people to put a third party candidate in office.
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You mean like when Lincoln was elected?

Republicans tend to forget that they were once a third party

[Socrates]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Nov 27 2005, 10:42 PM']There should be an option for voting for whatever candidate is closest to church teaching.
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Well, hopefully all good Catholics should try to vote this way.
I probably should've clarified, but I was thinking along the lines of presuming the candidates are more-or-less like those in the past several elections, and basically followed the current party platforms. (Reagan, Bush, Bush vs. Clinton, Gore, Kerry, etc.)

I voted Republican, but might vote third party if the Republican was blatantly pro-abortion, or otherwise completely liberal.

My views on most political issues are well to the "right" of the current GOP leadership, and I could never vote Democratic, unless that Democratic candidate were radically different from any Dem presidential candidates of recent times.

Edited November 28, 2005 by Socrates

[Socrates]

[quote name='PhillyMatt' date='Nov 27 2005, 10:03 PM']I'd pray that next election that there will be a decent 3rd part candidate, hopefully libertarian.  I at least want this candidate to have a decent command of the english language and to put on the guise of being vaguley intelligent  I want a president who is intelligent, one that is a leader, and one who inspires. 

But hey, if a rep or dem has the attributes, I'll vote for them.  Whichever one I think will be best for the country as a WHOLE.  That's the one I'd vote for.
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So how they actually stand on the issues is comparatively unimportant to you?

[TheOliverOrder88]

I say vote with your heart, a Catholic heart that is.

We have a problem with the next election....who would the epitome Republican, with leadership, who would be running.