Myles Domini Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 [url="http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2005/12/06/njewel06.xml&sSheet=/news/2005/12/06/ixhome.html"]GIRL SENT HOME FOR WEARING CRUCIFIX[/url] Those of us who live in the UK need to do something about this!! Write to the papers, write to the Bishops, complain, campaign. This is WRONG Beau Seant!! Myles
tojo Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 The most I can imagine them being justified in is asking her to wear it beneath her clothing, in order to not draw attention to her receiving an exception to normal school rules.
N/A Gone Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 thats it...americans, we need to take over to "help them" learn the proper way.. just playing of course, but this news article makes me sad sin-fin, anyone else think it is weird that the term "sin" and "fin"(finish-done) is the name of the school?
Didacus Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 Why ban religious symbols in the first place?
Paladin D Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 They're banning jewelry, not religious symbols (so you can wear a shirt with a crucifix symbol on it).
Didacus Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 OK then... the rosary is not 'jewelry', it is a religious symbol and tool for prayer. That simple no? i would sue that school... and probably win... and I'm not even a lawyer!
Didacus Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 OK then... the rosary is not 'jewelry', it is a religious symbol and tool for prayer. That simple no? i would sue that school... and probably win... and I'm not even a lawyer!
Balthazor Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 Yeah but English law is different than American Law. They have a completley different system and different laws so I do not know how you would establish precident. Can anyone from the UK out there help us out? I haven't heard the whole story. I want to hear the whole story before I get angry.
Theoketos Posted December 6, 2005 Posted December 6, 2005 It is still very inconsistant. To ask that she take off the Crucifix when another set of people can wear prayer beads.
Myles Domini Posted December 7, 2005 Author Posted December 7, 2005 This is what gets me: [quote]He added: "As a Christian I don't have to wear a crucifix but Sikhs don't have that option and we have to be understanding. We live in a multi-faith society."[/quote] So the rules on jewellry in school can be dispensed with for one religion but not for another? The school claim they dont allow jewllery for health and safety reasons. If its that dangerous to wear religious items then they should force the Sikh's to comply with the rules. The fact that they dont force the Sikh's to obey establishes a double standard and to me shows that it cannot be that important to clamp down on items of religious devotion, that is, unless those items are Christian. She's been wearing it for 3 years her mother says why stop her now? I wear a white gold cross around my neck at all times, my Mother and Grandmother saved up one Christmas and bought it for me with all they could muster. For me it is emblematic of taking up one's cross, their struggle allowed me to take up my own cross, and their example is one for me to follow. Thats what it means to me and if some teacher told me I had to take it off because I dont have to wear it I would not be compliant. I do have to wear it, love and effort went into getting that cross, and love and struggle is what the cross means to all Christians. The passion of Christ is at the core of Christianity, the new covenant is sealed in His blood and we are to carry that reality with us at all times. Thats why people began making crucifix's and icons in the first place! If the teachers can be sensitive to Sikh sensibilities they should likewise show sensitivity to Christians. INXC Myles
qfnol31 Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 I think the second to last line of the story sums it up really well, however: [quote]A spokesman said: "It is lawful to ban crucifixes while allowing other religious symbols, but whether it is desirable is another matter.[/quote]
Christie_M Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Yeah. That is very sad. If that was me, I would just NOT go to school unless they let me wear my crusifux. (at least under my shurt) otherwise, they lose a student(and money for that matter) but people have different views. And I'm homeschooled, so I'm probley going to be in that situation.
benedictaj Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 Yeah, I can see all you guys anger at this, and when I first heard, I thought it was horrible as well. But the girl doesn't go to church! Maybe it is "just" a piece of jewelery to her! Afterall, they are only saying No to jewelery, I imagine they'd allow people to carry Rosary beads with them..... And it said that the girl "only" believes in God, does she believe in Jesus? as both God and Man? does she understand and believe the significance of the crucifix? Its plain that her mother does.....but teenagers can stop believing in the things that their parents do, as they learn who they are. (its sad but true.)
Guest Rick777 Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 yah but she obviously felt "some" connection to it, it had some importance to her. She may not believe every dogma of the Catholic church now but this experience may help her to. I think you are in my opinion being just a little to critical of this girl.
Christie_M Posted December 7, 2005 Posted December 7, 2005 good point... I think I'm just going to sit and watch how this turns out before I change my mind again.
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