Collegeville Bible commentary?

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Dec 6 2005, 09:54 PM']Shew, I've read most of those for PBS I. I have the New Jerome commentary, but I've heard bad things about Brown. Unorthodoxy annoys me. I'm going to have to write the commentary of all commentaries. : hehe. I don't particularly like Navarre for Bible study, though it has come in handy on occassion when I want a quote from the Fathers to back up my point, other than that I haven't found any use for it, and I especially don't like the first volume and some of the positions it takes, but I do have the Gospels and Acts, and St. Paul's letters which is a fairly new version.
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Chilax, I was addressing the general public, or rather those who might be reading this thread and wondering where they should get started. I actually assumed you were already familiar with those documents. :

About Brown (and others): when I read their stuff and see nothing in their methodology that distinguishes them from liberal protestants, I don't consider the material to be Catholic scholarship.

I can appreciate someone trying to be an "objective" scholar and trying to engage Biblical scholarship on all levels (Catholic, protestant, agnostic, etc.), but checking your faith at the door is no way to penetrate the mysteries of Scripture.

I would give examples of problems I have encountered in Brown's books, but I fear it would scandalize the youngins on this site. Some things aren't worthy of reproduction. But in essence, my problem is the methodology. The approach outlined by the magisterium and the pontifical biblical commission is quite "objective" enough I'd say. Some people just try too hard I guess. hehe

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='shortnun' date='Dec 6 2005, 08:29 PM']Excellent advice!  Aaaaaaaaand, all those documents can be found in one book ([i][b]or online, if you feel like looking them up[/b][/i]). [right][snapback]814042[/snapback][/right][/quote]
you rang?

for the church documents that pertain to biblical scholarship, go here:

The Bible --> Hermeneutics and Exegesis --> Church Documents:
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/710"]http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/710[/url]

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[quote name='Brother Adam' date='Dec 6 2005, 11:54 PM']Shew, I've read most of those for PBS I. I have the New Jerome commentary, but I've heard bad things about Brown. Unorthodoxy annoys me. I'm going to have to write the commentary of all commentaries. : hehe. I don't particularly like Navarre for Bible study, though it has come in handy on occassion when I want a quote from the Fathers to back up my point, other than that I haven't found any use for it, and I especially don't like the first volume and some of the positions it takes, but I do have the Gospels and Acts, and St. Paul's letters which is a fairly new version.[right][snapback]814380[/snapback][/right][/quote]
what exactly don't you like about the navarre? i've never found anything wrong w/ it.....

[Laudate_Dominum]

wow! you rock my socks!!

phatcatholic for church faithful!!!

[phatcatholic]

haha, u kill me dude

[Brother Adam]

[quote name='Laudate_Dominum' date='Dec 7 2005, 01:05 AM']Chilax, I was addressing the general public, or rather those who might be reading this thread and wondering where they should get started. I actually assumed you were already familiar with those documents. :

About Brown (and others): when I read their stuff and see nothing in their methodology that distinguishes them from liberal protestants, I don't consider the material to be Catholic scholarship.

I can appreciate someone trying to be an "objective" scholar and trying to engage Biblical scholarship on all levels (Catholic, protestant, agnostic, etc.), but checking your faith at the door is no way to penetrate the mysteries of Scripture.

I would give examples of problems I have encountered in Brown's books, but I fear it would scandalize the youngins on this site. Some things aren't worthy of reproduction. But in essence, my problem is the methodology. The approach outlined by the magisterium and the pontifical biblical commission is quite "objective" enough I'd say. Some people just try too hard I guess. hehe
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PM me please. This is something I should probably know about since Brown's book is a bestseller here.

Edited December 7, 2005 by Brother Adam

[phatcatholic]

i have a whole entry on him

Fr. Raymond Brown
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/698"]http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/698[/url]

[shortnun]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Dec 8 2005, 03:32 AM']i have a whole entry on him

Fr. Raymond Brown
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/698"]http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/698[/url]
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May the souls of all the departed, through the mercy of Christ, rest in peace. Amen.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Dec 8 2005, 02:32 AM']i have a whole entry on him

Fr. Raymond Brown
[url="http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/698"]http://www.phatmass.com/directory/index.php/cat_id/698[/url]
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omgosh! you rock!!!

phatcatholic for church militant!!!!

[phatcatholic]

[quote name='shortnun' date='Dec 8 2005, 09:11 AM']May the souls of all the departed, through the mercy of Christ, rest in peace. Amen.[right][snapback]816624[/snapback][/right][/quote]
thank you for this. i certainly did not mean to make light of his death.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Dec 9 2005, 12:31 AM']thank you for this. i certainly did not mean to make light of his death.
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I know a priest who was a friend of Fr. Raymond Brown, and he told me that he had a strong devotion to Our Lady. I'm sure she took good care of him in his final hours.

Actually, from the things this priest told me, it is even more hard for me to comprehend how he could have worn that agnostic scholar hat. People are complex I suppose.

[phatcatholic]

indeed......

[shortnun]

[quote name='phatcatholic' date='Dec 9 2005, 01:31 AM']thank you for this. i certainly did not mean to make light of his death.
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Phatcatholic, I'm sure you did not at all. I just wanted us all to be reminded of the Christian charity we're to exude at all times.



(But I'm always up for a Raymond Brown debate! )