Remember that "Hell is not a place" thing?

[beatty07]

So the former editor of the English version of L'Osservatore Romano just gave a lecture at my seminary today. It was all very interesting and enlightening but this is a gem...

Remember about 7 or 8 years ago when everyone on Earth was quoting John Paul II that Hell is not a place, but more of a state of mind or something? Well what he said (I don't remember if it was in Italian or Latin) was "More than just a place..." Which is completely different and totally changes the statement.

However, the editor was on vacation that week and the translator gaffed it as "Rather than a place..."

Some of us won't remember, but this was a huge splash at the time. I mean it was even coming up in my mega-state university modernist philosophy classes. And then all these people were rushing in to save orthodoxy by constructing elaborate apologetics for something the Pope didn't say. And others were loudly proclaiming the victory of reason and common sense over the medieval superstitious nonsense of Hell.

All because the editor of L'Osservatore Romano took a week's vacation.

[Aloysius]

sweeeeeeeeet! I always knew hell was a place!

[qfnol31]

[quote name='Aloysius' date='Dec 6 2005, 11:20 PM']sweeeeeeeeet!  I always knew hell was a place!
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Is a good thing too, otherwise the patron Saint of my birthday calls you a heretic in his tract on Hell.

Talk about fun light reading!

[Guest T-Bone]

[quote name='qfnol31' date='Dec 6 2005, 10:21 PM']Is a good thing too, otherwise the patron Saint of my birthday calls you a heretic in his tract on Hell. 

Talk about fun light reading!
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St. Jack of Chick?

[N/A Gone]

If always thought that hell was a place,

the only place of debate I have is that I dont think the fire is literal. Im alil too JP moorland in this

[Aloysius]

it doesn't necessarily have to be literal, it's just that there must be actual active punishment from God. not just separation from communion with Him which is basically passive punishment administered on the part of God, i.e. simply leaving them alone, but the active infliction of just punishment.

[N/A Gone]

lack of anything God, including the emotional realisation of what happened seems rather harsh

oh yea, and we are kind of not at the top of the food chain if you have read screwtape

[Guest T-Bone]

I always thought of Hell as an eternaly cold and dark place with "things" creeping about, gnashing thier teeth.

Alot more scary/unpleasant than mere fire.

[homeschoolmom]

Whatever... I really don't want to know...

[N/A Gone]

jp moorland..good stuff

[The Joey-O]

You know, I sorta wonder about Hell being a place. I don't think places exist.

[N/A Gone]

ur weird...I did not approve of that idea and I will beat you later into reform.,hell is a lack of a place, thus a place, but in a metaphycial sense...read some moreland rookjie

[The Joey-O]

You can't make me read! Reading is for Heathens! Just like Math!

[N/A Gone]

u read my post before you typed..

are you already for bed honey?

[The Joey-O]

Yes dear.

[N/A Gone]

you still have pants on, you havent brushed your teeth, or shaved..I dont want whisker rub..go..clean yourself and than we spoon

[The Joey-O]

Eat a pickle.

[N/A Gone]

exactly my point..

[qfnol31]

[quote name='T-Bone' date='Dec 7 2005, 01:35 AM']St. Jack of Chick?
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St. Alphonsus Marie Ligouri.