Downloaders beware

[Era Might]

iTunes should develop a new feature so that you could listen to the whole album before you buy. Maybe pay 1 or 2 bucks to hear it once.

[xTrishaxLynnx]

[quote name='Era Might' post='1100827' date='Oct 25 2006, 11:59 AM']
iTunes should develop a new feature so that you could listen to the whole album before you buy. Maybe pay 1 or 2 bucks to hear it once.
[/quote]


Doesn't sound like a bad idea. That way, people wouldn't be so skeptical and afraid of spending about $15 to wind up only liking one or two songs.

I also think that if you do decide to buy it, and they offered to take the money you spent on previewing it off the regular price, they'd have a pretty good system there.

Edited October 25, 2006 by xTrishaxLynnx

[Guest T-Bone]

[quote name='bx_racer' post='830935' date='Dec 19 2005, 07:04 PM']
i dont download because of all the moral controversy but [b]i read somewhere the artist isnt hurt that much, because most of their money comes from tours and other merchandise.[/b] its more the label. i think its pretty stupid and people should be allowed to do it. that way more people actually hear the music and the labels arent so greedy.
[/quote]

Moot point. Gas stations get most of thier money from the beer, soda, and candy bought within--not from the gas. By this logic, it shouldn't be illegal to steal gas. That way people acutally get to use the gas and the gas stations aren't so greedy.

[Farsight one]

I always thought that it was strange that in the beginning, the artists' defense against downloading music was that their record sales were dropping. They were dropping, in the United states, but pay attention to the big picture, and you'd notice that their overall sales were going up. Anything for a buck.

[Guest T-Bone]

[quote name='Farsight one' post='1101011' date='Oct 25 2006, 02:47 PM']
I always thought that it was strange that in the beginning, the artists' defense against downloading music was that their record sales were dropping. They were dropping, in the United states, but pay attention to the big picture, and you'd notice that their overall sales were going up. Anything for a buck.
[/quote]

I always thought it was strange that all these people who would never think about stealing a CD from a store, stole hundreds of songs from the artists and record companies. Anything to save a buck.

[ardillacid]

[quote name='Carrie' post='823802' date='Dec 13 2005, 04:40 PM']
It's all Metallica's fault.
[/quote]
:applause:

[quote name='Carrie' post='824887' date='Dec 14 2005, 11:43 AM']


(as if anyone was buying metallica's music after they cut their hair and starting putting out bad albums).
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:applause:

[MissScripture]

[quote name='T-Bone' post='1101077' date='Oct 25 2006, 05:50 PM']
I always thought it was strange that all these people who would never think about stealing a CD from a store, stole hundreds of songs from the artists and record companies. Anything to save a buck.
[/quote]

I find it strange that people who think nothing of downloading music get upset when things they've made (programs, pictures, etc.) are copied and used. Funny how laws are so stupid until they protect you...

[Goetian]

Please explain to me how the heck you're supposed to find music and know you want to buy it if you can't hear it first.

30 seconds might cut it if the song is <3 minutes or so, but if it's >10 you can forget it.

Edited October 29, 2006 by Era Might

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='xTrishaxLynnx' post='1100826' date='Oct 25 2006, 11:57 AM']
Bringing back an old thread... I have a slight issue here.
It's not illegal to record things from the radio, is it? (i'm really not 100% sure...) If it isn't, why would it be such a bad thing to download those songs that you can already hear for free? And I know most of the time an artist's entire album is not played on the radio, only a song or two to hook you so you buy the album.. but if they offered a couple of songs (the radio played songs) for free, then you had the option to buy and download the album online, how would the artists OR labels be losing money?
[/quote]
I see no difference between recording from the radio or recording from my computer.

[Guest T-Bone]

[quote name='Goetian' post='1104193' date='Oct 29 2006, 03:51 PM']
Please explain to me how the hell you're supposed to find music and know you want to buy it if you can't hear it first.

30 seconds might cut it if the song is <3 minutes or so, but if it's >10 you can forget it.
[/quote]

Please explain to me the difference between a 3 minute song, and a ten minute one.

[homeschoolmom]

Can't you listen to songs on the radio and decide if you like them?

[Guest T-Bone]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' post='1104205' date='Oct 29 2006, 04:08 PM']
I see no difference between recording from the radio or recording from my computer.
[/quote]

There is no difference, legally or morally. The only differences are: the practicality of enforcement; the sound quality; and the ease of being able to STEAL the songs you want to STEAL.

[Goetian]

[quote name='T-Bone' post='1104217' date='Oct 29 2006, 06:20 PM']
Please explain to me the difference between a 3 minute song, and a ten minute one.
[/quote]

The fact that a 10 minute song is going to be changing its sound a lot throughout, while a three minute song would have room for verse-chorus and maybe a quick bridge.

[Guest T-Bone]

[quote name='Goetian' post='1104232' date='Oct 29 2006, 04:38 PM']
The fact that a 10 minute song is going to be changing its sound a lot throughout, while a three minute song would have room for verse-chorus and maybe a quick bridge.
[/quote]

But how would you not know if you were going to like the song?

[cmotherofpirl]

[quote name='T-Bone' post='1104220' date='Oct 29 2006, 06:21 PM']
There is no difference, legally or morally. The only differences are: the practicality of enforcement; the sound quality; and the ease of being able to STEAL the songs you want to STEAL.
[/quote]
There is no difference between recording a song and recording my favorite episode on TV

[Guest T-Bone]

Are you playing devil's advocate, or are you actually defending theives?

It's all about the licence, people!

[bx_racer]

i consulted with a priest and he said it was fine for personal use

[Sojourner]

[quote name='bx_racer' post='1137888' date='Dec 7 2006, 09:56 PM']
i consulted with a priest and he said it was fine for personal use
[/quote]
Is he a lawyer?

[pcabibi]

I think the way that the new service "Urge" is handeling it is the right way.

With Zune, you download music, and the music have licenses attached to them. if you fail to renew your membership for that month, then the files are rendered unusable until the licenses are digitally updtated with a current membership.

in turn, the Record companies get a paid a proportional amount of however many times thier album is downloaded from proceedes earned from the Urge membership service.

Edited December 8, 2006 by JClives

[got2luvjc]

Remember how when you watch a movie, it has that 10 hour-long screen that the FBI will beat you with a wet noodle and fine you $111111100000000000 if you reproduce the movie in any way shape or form?

Well... the reason I don't copy movies is cuz it's illegal. I just want to know the law about the music thing. clean and simple.

Also... if we're allowed 30 seconds of a song to sample, by that reasoning shouldn't we be allowed like, 10 minutes of a movie to be proportionate? and 5 minutes of a tv show? and 1 level of a video game?
(playing devil's advocate)

I'm all about being legal. Whatever the law says I can do, I'll do (if it's morally good.. example: I think it's legal to prostitute in las vegas... but just cuz it's legal doesn't mean I'm going to do it). Whatever it says I can't, I won't (if it's morally bad... example: if the law says I can't pray in school... too bad, I'm going to).

Edited December 8, 2006 by got2luvjc