EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 In my eternal quest to learn everything there is to know about my religion, I have come upon the issue of Limbo. What is the Church's stance?
vianney Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 I think that before Vatican II the church believed in Limbo cause one of my really really old orthodox friends at my local parish talks about it alot. Im not sure. I have even heard some priests treat limbo and purgatory as one in the same. Ne more comments?
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 10, 2003 Author Posted December 10, 2003 The Church can't just throw out a doctrine. For some reason we haven't heard about it much.
vianney Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 Well Im not sure if it was doctrine or not. All I know is that I have heard from more then one old timer that it was taught. I dont know what the stance is now on it. Can ne one help??
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 10, 2003 Author Posted December 10, 2003 I have been told that the Church "got away from" this teaching because it was "controversial". I don't see anything wrong with it. Somebody help us.
God Conquers Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 I think it's another plane of heaven, like purgatory. A neutral place. It may be the place that everyone righteous pre-Christ went to, who didn't deserve purgatory or hell, before Jesus opened the gates.
BLAZEr Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 Limbo has never been a teaching of the Church though it was a very common belief. It's kind of like a pious tradition but was never articulated by the Church in her teaching. She has very clearly said there is no such place in the last 100 years.
God Conquers Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 hahaha! Fair enough! What about Sheol?
vianney Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 ha ha which would explain why this really old guy said that to me cause he can come off trying to be pius and he is orthodox even for the orthodox ha ha thanks blazer for clearing it up.
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 10, 2003 Author Posted December 10, 2003 (edited) Sheol is a word used to describe what happens after death but strcitly associated with hell. Am I right? BTW: Thank you Blazer for your clarification of this matter for me. Edited December 10, 2003 by thedude
~Ghost~ Posted December 10, 2003 Posted December 10, 2003 I'm pretty sure that there is no Limbo. Isn't it just another name for the place where the faithful were before Christ's Crucifixion? They couldn't be in heaven because they did not yet have His sanctifying grace. If I'm wrong, will someone tell me?
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 11, 2003 Author Posted December 11, 2003 This site explains it quite well: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09256a.htm
God Conquers Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 whoa, that article is a mindblow! I love NewAdvent. BTW, Does that last paragraph actually say that it is possible to go to hell and still be perfectly subjectively happy for eternity?! (as in the case of babies)
M.SIGGA Posted December 11, 2003 Posted December 11, 2003 I thought Shoel was where the Jews believe they go when they die because they are still awaiting the comming of the Messiah. That's why the Holocaust Memorial is called the Shoel because so many Jews died under the Nazis.
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted December 11, 2003 Author Posted December 11, 2003 You are right and they were freed after Jesus came. The Limbo I was refering to was the so-called "children's limbo" where unbaptized babies were said to go. As Blazer has already stated, it was never a Church teaching.
cmotherofpirl Posted December 12, 2003 Posted December 12, 2003 limbo: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/09256a.htm hell: http://www.newadvent.org/cathen/07207a.htm
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