Communism and Liberalism

[Akalyte]

[url="http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm"]http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm[/url]

"complete separation of church and state"

Hmm sounds just like John Kerry and the Democratic party.

[KnightofChrist]

Communism and Liberalism are one in the same! In both Christ is their enemy, and Goverment is god. Communist unjustly murdered Jews, Liberalist murder Babies.

[PadreSantiago]

seperation of church and state is the reason we aren't still the dark ages. You can thank seperation of church and state for america as well as pretty much any kind of technology we have today.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='PadreSantiago' date='Dec 27 2005, 02:53 AM']seperation of church and state is the reason we aren't still the dark ages.  You can thank seperation of church and state for america as well as pretty much any kind of technology we have today.
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hey, dude - last i read the Consitution the words "Consitution, Church" and "State" are not written in the same sentance - let alone in the same article
[quote]Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof... [/quote]
[url="http://federalistpatriot.us/histdocs/billrights.htm"]--- Read it all HERE[/url]
our founders fled a government that made a state Christian denomination (The Anglican Church) ...
so here in the Free Country it is Free Expression of Faith - not [i]freedom from religion[/i], like the ACLU and Athiest extremists and liberals like you would have it
....

[|gnat|]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='Dec 27 2005, 01:46 AM']Communism and Liberalism are one in the same!  In both Christ is their enemy, and Goverment is god.  Communist unjustly murdered Jews, Liberalist murder Babies. 
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The same? Seriously though, look them up, they're actually quite different.

And while we're saying asinine things, you talked about who commies and dirty liberals have murded, now it's time for who conservatives have murdered (at least most recently):

Iraqi civilians and American prisoners.





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[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='PadreSantiago' date='Dec 27 2005, 02:53 AM']seperation of church and state is the reason we aren't still the dark ages.  You can thank seperation of church and state for america as well as pretty much any kind of technology we have today.
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lets stay on track, Liberal...

First read Akalyte's [url="http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm"]POST[/url]
you read the 1963 Liberal goals [url="http://www.glennbeck.com/news/03212002.shtml"]HERE[/url]... tell me who furthered the goals in our society more? ... the Conservatives?.. ha!
and which anti-Christian, anti-Church, anti-Semitic, Atheistic Communist goals were achieved by the Liberal movement...
EVERY ONE OF THEM - THANKS TO THE LIBERALS

every one of these objectives were plowed into the mainstream society and spread globally by the Liberal "thought" (or Liberal “lack of thought”)
as well as Liberal word…
The Liberal movement is the Anti-American movement

[b]LIBERALS! its not too late to join the winning team[/b]
Go conservative

[|gnat|]

how about neither? unless of course, God votes one way or the other.

Edited December 27, 2005 by |gnat|

[Akalyte]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' date='Dec 27 2005, 02:46 AM']lets stay on track, Liberal...

First read Akalyte's [url="http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm"]POST[/url]
you read the 1963 Liberal goals [url="http://www.glennbeck.com/news/03212002.shtml"]HERE[/url]... tell me who furthered the goals in our society more?        ... the Conservatives?.. ha!
and which anti-Christian, anti-Church, anti-Semitic, Atheistic  Communist goals were achieved by the Liberal movement... 
EVERY ONE OF THEM - THANKS TO THE LIBERALS

every one of these objectives were plowed into the mainstream society and spread globally by the Liberal "thought" (or Liberal “lack of thought”)
as well as Liberal word…
The Liberal movement is the Anti-American movement

[b]LIBERALS! its not too late to join the winning team[/b]
Go conservative 
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They have all been fullfilled...Thanks to the Democratic Party and it's weirdo followers.

[Socrates]

All those liberals and socialists here who think Communism was a-ok (or at least not that bad) should read [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/093188859X/qid=1135727927/sr=1-1/ref=sr_1_1/002-2323353-4496057?s=books&v=glance&n=283155"][i]The Rise and Fall of the Communist Revolution[/i], by Dr. Warren H. Carroll.[/url]

Those who think "capitalism" is contrary to the Church, and socialism is the way to go should read [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0739110365/qid=1135727509/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-2323353-4496057?n=507846&s=books&v=glance"][i]The Church and the Market[/i], by Thomas E. Woods Jr.[/url]

Those who believe the myth that Christianity and the Church was the enemy of scientific progess should read [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/089526031X/qid=1135727734/sr=2-1/ref=pd_bbs_b_2_1/002-2323353-4496057?s=books&v=glance&n=283155"][i]The Politically Incorrect Guide to Science[/i], by Tom Bethell.[/url]

Take time to learn the truth about these subjects, then maybe you could at least have something intelligent to say on the matter, rather than just sling around Leftist slogans and propaganda.

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='|gnat|' date='Dec 27 2005, 02:40 AM']The same?  Seriously though, look them up, they're actually quite different. 

And while we're saying asinine things, you talked about who commies and dirty liberals have murded, now it's time for who conservatives have murdered (at least most recently):

Iraqi civilians and American prisoners.
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Typically lib respose... Conservatives free the people of Iraq and we are evil ha! Conservaties see to it justice is served against Child rapist and murders and we are evil. Were as Libs give aid and want to be friends with terrorist. Libs want to murder innocent babes, yet protect evil men that murder innocent people.

Anti-Christ Libs murder little innocent babies by the millions opon millions around the world and when Conservatives try to stop them we are evil. What a joke. Nina If you think that Liberalism and Communism are "quite different" please explain to us how?

I would add that Liberalism today in its full surport of the Abortion Holocaust is not to far from the Jewish Holocaust by the Nazi's. Lib's go a step futher, at least Nazi's thought the Jew as a Human, however "sub-human" Libs today do not even "grant" the title of Human to the unborn... "its" just a blob of cells to them.

Also Conservative Republicans fought a civil war in this country to free black slaves, Democrats rebelled hated The United States so much they made their own country, and went to war to keep the inslavement our black brothers in Christ.

[Akalyte]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='Dec 27 2005, 06:12 PM']Typically lib respose... Conservatives free the people of Iraq and we are evil ha!  Conservaties see to it justice is served against Child rapist and murders and we are evil.  Were as Libs give aid and want to be friends with terrorist.  Libs want to murder innocent babes, yet protect evil men that murder innocent people.

Anti-Christ Libs murder little innocent babies by the millions opon millions around the world and when Conservatives try to stop them we are evil.  What a joke.  Nina If you think that Liberalism and Communism are "quite different" please explain to us how?

I would add that Liberalism today in its full surport of the Abortion Holocaust is not to far from the Jewish Holocaust by the Nazi's.  Lib's go a step futher, at least Nazi's thought the Jew as a Human, however "sub-human"  Libs today do not even "grant" the title of Human to the unborn... "its" just a blob of cells to them.

Also Conservative Republicans fought a civil war in this country to free black slaves, Democrats rebelled hated The United States so much they made their own country, and went to war to keep the inslavement our black brothers in Christ.
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Beautiful post!!

[KnightofChrist]

[quote name='PadreSantiago' date='Dec 27 2005, 12:53 AM']seperation of church and state is the reason we aren't still the dark ages.  You can thank seperation of church and state for america as well as pretty much any kind of technology we have today.
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No not correct "Seperation of Church and state" is why we will return to a darker age, than the dark ages ever where... Plus you seem to know VERY little about the "dark ages" it was Holy Mother Church with the Light of Christ that lead us out of the Dark Ages get it right man! Your libs teachers really did a number on you!

Is it not something since libs have taken God out of "public" (governent) schools the crime and death and evil has risen to ungody rates... so take God out from His people and we shall all regret what comes from it, which is ungodyness and evil, and why would God protect them that deine His Holy name? Libs have many mental disorders "Seperation of Church and state" is but one...

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='Dec 27 2005, 08:12 PM']Typically lib respose... Conservatives free the people of Iraq and we are evil ha!  Conservaties see to it justice is served against Child rapist and murders and we are evil.  Were as Libs give aid and want to be friends with terrorist.  Libs want to murder innocent babes, yet protect evil men that murder innocent people.

Anti-Christ Libs murder little innocent babies by the millions opon millions around the world and when Conservatives try to stop them we are evil.  What a joke.  Nina If you think that Liberalism and Communism are "quite different" please explain to us how?

I would add that Liberalism today in its full surport of the Abortion Holocaust is not to far from the Jewish Holocaust by the Nazi's.  Lib's go a step futher, at least Nazi's thought the Jew as a Human, however "sub-human"  Libs today do not even "grant" the title of Human to the unborn... "its" just a blob of cells to them.

Also Conservative Republicans fought a civil war in this country to free black slaves, Democrats rebelled hated The United States so much they made their own country, and went to war to keep the inslavement our black brothers in Christ.
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:applause:

[Fidei Defensor]

[quote name='PadreSantiago' date='Dec 27 2005, 12:53 AM']seperation of church and state is the reason we aren't still the dark ages.  You can thank seperation of church and state for america as well as pretty much any kind of technology we have today.
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Actually, It was the Church that was making all the scientific advances, and its the Church that still holds all the history of western Civilization. It wasnt until after States began to resist the Church that they had problems.

[Socrates]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='Dec 27 2005, 06:12 PM']Also Conservative Republicans fought a civil war in this country to free black slaves, Democrats rebelled hated The United States so much they made their own country, and went to war to keep the inslavement our black brothers in Christ.
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I appreciate your enthusiasm here, but it is really inaccurate and anachronistic to portray the War Between the States as a matter of "Conservative Republicans" vs. "Liberal Democrats." The South and the Democrats were the more conservative group at the time. The North and the Republicans were for big government and the increase of Federal power, while the Confederacy was built on the older idea of State's rights, and was more traditional. The Republicans were the "progressive" party of the day.

The Democrats and Republicans on the 1860s have very little to do with these parties' current positions. (Note that now the South tends to vote more Republican than the North).

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='Dec 26 2005, 11:46 PM']Communism and Liberalism are one in the same!  In both Christ is their enemy, and Goverment is god.   Communist unjustly murdered Jews, Liberalist murder Babies.  
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Let's see what happens if you google mccarthyism.

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='Dec 27 2005, 05:12 PM']Typically lib respose... Conservatives free the people of Iraq and we are evil ha!  Conservaties see to it justice is served against Child rapist and murders and we are evil.  Were as Libs give aid and want to be friends with terrorist.  Libs want to murder innocent babes, yet protect evil men that murder innocent people.[right][snapback]837123[/snapback][/right]
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Typical conservatives, earlier witch-hunted communists in their own country and then got rid of a dictator-run government whose methods included witch-hunting potential dissenters.

Edited December 29, 2005 by Light and Truth

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='Akalyte' date='Dec 24 2005, 12:34 PM'][url="http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm"]http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm[/url]

"complete separation of church and state"

Hmm sounds just like John Kerry and the Democratic party.
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What if the relgion in question was Islam?

[ruso]

[quote name='KnightofChrist' date='Dec 28 2005, 02:12 AM']Typically lib respose... Conservatives free the people of Iraq and we are evil ha!  Conservaties see to it justice is served against Child rapist and murders and we are evil.  Were as Libs give aid and want to be friends with terrorist.  Libs want to murder innocent babes, yet protect evil men that murder innocent people.

Anti-Christ Libs murder little innocent babies by the millions opon millions around the world and when Conservatives try to stop them we are evil.  What a joke.  Nina If you think that Liberalism and Communism are "quite different" please explain to us how?

I would add that Liberalism today in its full surport of the Abortion Holocaust is not to far from the Jewish Holocaust by the Nazi's.  Lib's go a step futher, at least Nazi's thought the Jew as a Human, however "sub-human"  Libs today do not even "grant" the title of Human to the unborn... "its" just a blob of cells to them.

Also Conservative Republicans fought a civil war in this country to free black slaves, Democrats rebelled hated The United States so much they made their own country, and went to war to keep the inslavement our black brothers in Christ.
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Anyone knows,even those that we were not born in the USA, that the slavery was not the cause of the war, at the most the excuse.
In Iraq thousands of innocent civilians have died, But Sadam is prisoner,
the aim justifies means?.
Because Bush father did not do it during the first Gulf War?, he animate to Them to rebel itself against Sadam, when they did it, Bush betray them and he leave them into the hands of Sadam.
If it had done it then all the Muslims had been thankful it, but now it is an invasion, lies to justify it, and the Muslims worldwide are indignants.
All think that the invasion has been by the fuel, and I also.
With the capital punishment, also did not come Jesus to bring the new law?. We return to the eye by eye?, also we can return to stone women you adulterate, as it puts in the old testament.
The Pope has put itself against it always, also Jonh P. II was in against..
In the subject of the abortion I agree, but taken care of with as it is spoken. The life is not white or black.

[Anastasia13]

[quote name='Akalyte' date='Dec 24 2005, 12:34 PM'][url="http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm"]http://www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/03/24.htm[/url]

"complete separation of church and state"

Hmm sounds just like John Kerry and the Democratic party.
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What if the relgion in question was Islam? Would you support Islam?

13. Complete separation of Church and State. The clergy of every denomination shall be paid only by the voluntary contributions of their congregations.

Religion cannot be completely separated. Even Kerry's religious beliefs affect his political views.

Edited December 29, 2005 by Light and Truth

[Socrates]

[quote name='Light and Truth' date='Dec 28 2005, 07:04 PM']Let's see what happens if you google mccarthyism.
Typical conservatives, earlier witch-hunted communists in their own country and then got rid of a dictator-run government whose methods included witch-hunting potential dissenters.
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You are displaying your ignorance here. Most estimates say Communism was responsible for 70 million- 100 million murders world-wide through executions, "purges" forced famines, etc. It practiced widespread torture and death by concentration camps.
That is not "right-wing propaganda," but historical fact. Only the most fanatical communists and "fellow-travelers" will now claim otherwise.

To say that is equivilent to "McCarthyism" (that favorite bogeyman of the Left) is downright ludicrous. Communism was a real global threat in the post-WWII era, and there were actual Communist spies in the government. The worst that ever happened to anybody in those so-called "witch-hunts" were that careers were ended. Nobody was killed, or tortured, or sent to the Gulag.

The Left teaches a false version of history to divert from and excuse its own pathetic and shameful Cold War record of siding with Communism against America.

Learn the truth, rather than throw around tired Lefty slogans about "witch-hunts" and such.