NO FORMAL SSPX SCHISM, says Cardinal!

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[quote name='brendan1104' date='Dec 30 2005, 09:54 PM']Pham...

After alot of prayer and thought, after alot of giving alot into temptation, even though hours and minutes ago i was so bent on trying to prove the contrary, I can truly and sincerely state:

When Archbishop Lefebvre consecrated the bishops, he did perform a schismatic act, and that the Society of Saint Pius X is NOT in communion with Rome.

Thank you Holy Spirit and Mother Mary!

God bless,
Brendan
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Deo gratias.

[brendan1104]

you're the Lord and Master of Orthodoxy so I wanted you to verify that so toledo_jesus would be proven wrong... anyways thanks alot Cam you've really helped me but I have to go to confession, so talk to you all in about 30 minutes.

[ruso]

Brendan, I am sure that almost all never we have thought that you
are a heretic, you do not take the blame, and it prays so that the SSPX returns to the Church. The same one to that always you have belonged.

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='brendan1104' date='Dec 30 2005, 08:01 PM']toledo_jesus what you have said is unexcusable. it is slander, and it is not permitted by both Phatmass' rules and the Code of Canon Law:


I therefore request that you withdraw your statement, immediately.
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I'm a rude person, but the thrust of my statement was that I regard the SSPX as no better than Protestant, picking and choosing what aspects of Catholicism it wishes to adhere to. So, I feel most SSPX, ironically, are more Protestant in their outlook than they would care to admit.

Perhaps my impression is wrong.

Got your attention though. I'm sorry, you're not a Protestant. Unless you act like one.

[Ora et Labora]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Dec 30 2005, 07:58 AM']Brendan,

Bishop Fellay even said that a decree of excommunication was placed on the SSPX.
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Then why are you still struggling with the matter Sam???

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

a decree of excommunication and an actual excommunication are different things.

[Ora et Labora]

[quote name='brendan1104' date='Dec 30 2005, 08:05 PM']Bishop Williamson has never denied what took place during the Holocaust. And the Sound of Music, the Bells of Saint Mary's all gave an unfair presentation of "perfect" or romanticized Catholicism.
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So does the SSPX...I mean: give an unfair presentation of Catholocism. :

[Ora et Labora]

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Jan 6 2006, 05:06 PM']a decree of excommunication and an actual excommunication are different things.
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Whats the difference??

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

Basically Bishop Fellay know that the Pope said he was excommunicated

but he thinks the excommunication is invalid

[Ora et Labora]

Is there anything that makes an excommunication invalid? Its sort of confusing...SSPX...to me. Sorry.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

sure. Saint John of Arc and Satin Athansius were both invalidly excommunicated.

[Ora et Labora]

oohhhh I think I get it.

[Laudate_Dominum]

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[Ora et Labora]

Ya, I saw.