Jump to content
An Old School Catholic Message Board

Validity of the New Order


Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

Recommended Posts

Extra ecclesiam nulla salus

many trads say the mass proglumated by Paul VI, may be invalid, becasue he did not use his office to proglumate it, Because (unlike other bulls) He did not say "I define"


Is this true?



sam

Link to comment
Share on other sites

[quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Jan 16 2006, 10:14 PM']many trads say the mass proglumated by Paul VI, may be invalid, becasue he did not use his office to proglumate it, Because (unlike other bulls) He did not say "I define"
Is this true?
sam
[right][snapback]858281[/snapback][/right]
[/quote]

No. If you look to what Pope Paul VI states at the end of the promulgating document [url="http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Paul06/p6missal.htm"]Missale Romanum[/url], you'll see that while he doesn't say, "I define....," he does say;

[quote name='Pope Paul VI; Missale Romanum']We decree that these laws and prescriptions be firm and effective now and in the future, notwithstanding, to the extent necessary, the apostolic constitutions and ordinances issued by our predecessors and other prescriptions, even those deserving particular mention and amendment.[/quote]

This is a definitive statement of the same vein as a defining document which states, "I define...." The meanings are synonomous.


Furthermore, unity is expected as is stated:

[quote name='Pope Paul VI; Missale Romanum']When he promulgated the editio princeps of the Roman Missal, our predecessor St. Pius V offered it to the people of Christ as the instrument of liturgical unity and the expression of a pure and reverent worship in the Church. Even though, in virtue of the decree of the Second Vatican Council, we have accepted into the new Roman Missal lawful variations and adaptations, our own expectation in no way differs from that of our predecessor.[/quote]
(cf. Sacrosanctum Concilum, nos.38-40.)

Link to comment
Share on other sites

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...