Women & Church Leadership

[Socrates]

[quote name='journeyman' date='Jan 27 2006, 08:30 PM'][88 Rome has spoken, the Bishops and the people are in accord.  I accept that.

Is it possible that future study, reflection, prayer, and discernment may reveal this teaching, while not untrue, may have been incomplete?
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NO.

Rome has said that women [b]cannot [/b]become priests.

To say that women [b]can[/b] become priests would not "complete" the earlier teaching, but [b]contradict[/b] it.

The Church might in the future give further teachings explaining more deeply why women cannot be priests, but it could never contradict the original teaching.

[toledo_jesus]

[quote name='journeyman' date='Jan 27 2006, 10:30 PM']Rome has spoken, the Bishops and the people are in accord.  I accept that.

Is it possible that future study, reflection, prayer, and discernment may reveal this teaching, while not untrue, may have been incomplete?
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Dad, stop being a lawyer...

The answer to your last question is definitely a "no." It is now impossible for a future pope to contradict what has been authoritatively laid down by JPII. There is no incompleteness and quite frankly you only have to look to the Episcopalians to see what women priests would be like.

[journeyman]

[quote name='toledo_jesus' date='Jan 27 2006, 10:19 PM']Dad, stop being a lawyer...

The answer to your last question is definitely a "no."  It is now impossible for a future pope to contradict what has been authoritatively laid down by JPII.  There is no incompleteness and quite frankly you only have to look to the Episcopalians to see what women priests would be like.
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How can I stop? it's what keeps food on the table.

JPII spoke with authority, but his decision was based on our current understanding. I'd be willing to predict that If the BVM walked into the Vatican and said "nice try, now try again," the requirements for ordination would evolve to include some other standard.

of course, the thread title is women & church leadership . . . as you are fond of telling me, women have always had a leadership role in the Church - especially in the education area - but no need to burden the rest of PM with our circular discussion - and I don't want to get this moved over to the debate table where we might lose our civility . . . so I repeat

Rome has spoken. I accept that.

[cmotherofpirl]

nope.
Not even if the Blessed Virgin walked in would the Church contradict itself.

[Akalyte]

[quote name='cmotherofpirl' date='Jan 28 2006, 06:18 AM']nope.
Not even if the Blessed Virgin walked in would the Church contradict itself.
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Amen!