ironmonk Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 [quote name='Era Might' date='Jan 30 2006, 10:46 PM'] But we shouldn't let that obscure the real animus that exists toward homosexual persons. [right][snapback]870537[/snapback][/right] [/quote] And I'm not. [quote]The Church has been very careful for a reason. She knows that homosexual persons are often despised or not treated with proper Christian charity, and this is why she constantly reminds us that we must respect homosexual persons, we must show them compassion and understanding.[/quote] Why I refer people to [url="http://www.cathmed.org/publications/homosexuality.html"]Homosexuality and Hope[/url] quite often.
Era Might Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 [quote name='ironmonk' date='Jan 30 2006, 10:52 PM']And I'm not. Why I refer people to [url="http://www.cathmed.org/publications/homosexuality.html"]Homosexuality and Hope[/url] quite often. [right][snapback]870540[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Great. I'm glad we're on the same page.
photosynthesis Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jan 30 2006, 10:26 PM']however, I wouldn't blame any man for striking another man who tries to make a move on them. That would be justifiable anger, and I put down that I probably would. that doesn't mean beat the carp out of the guy, but any man who makes a sexual advance to another man ought to expect to get a black eye or a bloody nose. [right][snapback]870518[/snapback][/right] [/quote] If a gay man comes onto another man, and the gay man persists to the point where it threatens the other man's safety, then it is OK to hit him. However, if he is not threatening your safety and you can get him to stop with words, why hit him? Do you think it would "teach him a lesson?" The only lesson you'd teach him would be that Christians are hypocrites because they don't imitate Christ. How would that help the homosexual man? How would that bring him closer to Christ? Hitting the man would be a terrible thing to do! You would be adding fuel to his fire, giving him a reason to be more angry at the Catholic Church. Imagine what the people around you would think, knowing that you claim to be a follower of Christ. Punching a gay person in the face when they come on to you is a BAD idea, if you are able to stop them with words. While I could see that you might feel insulted (that he would suggest that you were gay) and angry, it is still not the way to treat someone. Instead of hitting the guy, you could look at the situation as an opportunity to evangelize. Why not say, "No, because that's a sin?" Why not tell him that there's a better way to live? Why not give him reasons why the Church teaches that homosexuality is degrading to the homosexual and offensive to God? Our Lord desires homosexuals to repent and come to Him, and this is not achieved through violence. We who call ourselves Catholics ought to strive to evangelize in all situations and never push people away from the Faith, no matter how insulted or angry we may be.
1337 k4th0l1x0r Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 I'll take a page out of Mitch Hedberg's routine. Homophobia is the only phobia that you can be yelled at for. "Dang it Billy, you're a homophobe." "Dang it Billy, you're an arachnophobe."
Birgitta Noel Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 26 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic." It seems to me that a lot of what they qualified as homophobic behavior is quite unchristian. Glad to have the distinction.
disturbedxfairy Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Extra ecclesiam nulla salus' date='Jan 30 2006, 07:57 PM']I'd expell her too. [right][snapback]870495[/snapback][/right] [/quote] what does her mother's sexual preference have to do with her education? 23 - Your score rates you as "high-grade non-homophobic." Edited January 31, 2006 by disturbedxfairy
Didacus Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 [quote]33 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic." In his 1996 study of 64 white, male college students, Dr. Henry Adams classed 29 participants as "non-homophobic." Their mean score was 30.48. This is not conclusive, however. Dr. Adams, the researcher who helped develop this scale, writes that "a major difficulty of this area of research is in defining and measuring homophobia." Elsewhere, he cautions: Since there is no universally accepted definition of homophobia, the scales currently in use may not measure all aspects of homophobia. [/quote] I thought of hitting the guy that came on to me... but to be honest I had to say no. If you all really want to know a little something; in my university days, I had 3 times more guys 'coming on' to me than girls. anyways... Back to you Bob...
photosynthesis Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 i had a friend who used to come on to me... We were counselors in the same Girl Scout camp. in the beginning, I ignored it... but later on I had to say something. So I brought it up and we had a heart to heart talk about it. I asked her what she found in me that was attractive, and she said, "You're very caring, like a mom." This girl didn't have a good relationship with her mom, and she desperately wanted to feel loved and cared for by a woman, and so she tried to satisfy her desire for intimacy through homosexuality. I told her that God can satisfy this desire way better than any woman can and showed her how to pray the rosary. I didn't hear from her for awhile, but last fall she wrote to me saying that she is going to church again and that she has abandoned her lesbian lifestyle. Praise God!
Aloysius Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 [quote name='photosynthesis' date='Jan 30 2006, 11:57 PM']i had a friend who used to come on to me... We were counselors in the same Girl Scout camp. in the beginning, I ignored it... but later on I had to say something. So I brought it up and we had a heart to heart talk about it. I asked her what she found in me that was attractive, and she said, "You're very caring, like a mom." This girl didn't have a good relationship with her mom, and she desperately wanted to feel loved and cared for by a woman, and so she tried to satisfy her desire for intimacy through homosexuality. I told her that God can satisfy this desire way better than any woman can and showed her how to pray the rosary. I didn't hear from her for awhile, but last fall she wrote to me saying that she is going to church again and that she has abandoned her lesbian lifestyle. Praise God! [right][snapback]870662[/snapback][/right] [/quote] that's cause you're girls. : men need to be treated like men sometimes.
photosynthesis Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Jan 31 2006, 01:23 AM']that's cause you're girls. : men need to be treated like men sometimes. [right][snapback]870698[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I don't think hitting a gay man without a good reason (i.e. because he was a threat to your health and safety) is treating him like a man, but more like something below a man. What better man is there to imitate than Christ Himself?
Guest Rick777 Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 I wouldn't hit a guy for coming on to me unless he did it so forcefully that I felt I had to restrain him.
kamiller42 Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 57 - Homophobic. If "phobic" is "fear of" and "homo" means "homosexuality", I agree. I fear all sins, be it chronic lying, stealing, addiction to porn, racism, drugs, etc. I am uncomfortable with anyone suffering these disorders. I would be very concerned about their well being.
PadreSantiago Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 so just socrates is afraid of gays then?
Ash Wednesday Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 23 - Your score rates you as "high-grade non-homophobic." My score would depend on what the quiz means about the term "homosexuality" -- if they are talking about the inclination itself, or the act.
Desert Walker Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 My score rates me as "non-homophobic." However, there are many moments when I unvoluntarilly feel homophobic....hmm
Church Punk Posted January 31, 2006 Posted January 31, 2006 48 - Your score rates you as "non-homophobic." No s***... I can be against and dislike homosexuallity and still not have a phobia about it! [quote]wheres Calgary? [/quote] Calgary located in the Canadian prarrie province of Alberta, nestled on the foot hills of the Rockie Mountains. Home of the Calgary Stampeders (foot ball), Calgary flames (hockey) the 1988 Winter Olympics and and the Annual Calgary Stampede!
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