dairygirl4u2c Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 i believe some distinctions are in order (ignore other thread of same name)
bx_racer Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 mm well im not sure if smoking pot in moderation is a sin or not if it is then pot. but if its not then niether, it really gets on my nerves when people act as if beer is some sort of bomb or smoking is like jumping off a building. as long as you dont depend on it, which also gets on my nerves or cant control yourself smoking and drinking are cool. oh also taking into account laws and whatnot.
Didacus Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 They say drinking a glass of wine per day is good for you; nop problem drinking alcohol regularly, as long as it is not in excess. Smoking cigarettes is not that bad in my opinion, as long as you don't smoke too much (half a pack per day being the max in my opinion, but prefrerably less). Pot on the other hand, cannot be consumed unless it is in excess. Everytime you smoke pot you mental capabilities are strained and your emotional outlook towards the world is distorted; hence you are 'drunk'.
Sojourner Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 I've seen people high. I've seen people drunk. It's not the same thing.
infinitelord1 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 i believe marijuana is a matter of the soul.......it has negative effects on it. It is a hallucinagen (however you spell that) making you see things that arent really there.......hence you are seeing lies.
Sojourner Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 [quote name='infinitelord1' date='Feb 10 2006, 12:47 PM']i believe marijuana is a matter of the soul.......it has negative effects on it. It is a hallucinagen (however you spell that) making you see things that arent really there.......hence you are seeing lies. [right][snapback]882933[/snapback][/right] [/quote] You've obviously got access to some crazy blend of pot there, mister. Marijuana alone is not hallucinogenic.
franciscanheart Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 [quote name='Sojourner' date='Feb 10 2006, 08:44 AM']I've seen people high. I've seen people drunk. It's not the same thing. [right][snapback]882841[/snapback][/right] [/quote] me too. and if i had to choose, i'd prefer to see them high.
Sojourner Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 [quote name='hugheyforlife' date='Feb 10 2006, 01:12 PM']me too. and if i had to choose, i'd prefer to see them high. [right][snapback]882957[/snapback][/right] [/quote] I agree.
Cow of Shame Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 [quote name='Sojourner' date='Feb 10 2006, 01:06 PM'] Marijuana alone is not hallucinogenic. [right][snapback]882952[/snapback][/right] [/quote] If you look up info on weed, hallucinations is listed as one of the effects.
Sojourner Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 [quote name='Cow of Shame' date='Feb 10 2006, 01:59 PM']If you look up info on weed, hallucinations is listed as one of the effects. [right][snapback]882998[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Turns out you're right ... my bad! Had no idea. Edited to say : Actually [url="http://www.answers.com/topic/hallucinogenic-drug"]this link[/url] corresponds with what I've heard in the past. [quote]hallucinogenic drug (həlū'sənōjĕn'ĭk) , any of a group of substances that alter consciousness; also called psychotomimetic (i.e., mimicking psychosis), mind-expanding, or psychedelic drug. The group includes mescaline, or peyote, which comes from the cactus Lophophora williamsii; psilocin and psilocybin, from the mushrooms Psilocybe mexicana and Stropharia cubensis; and LSD, synthesized from lysergic acid, found in the fungus Claviceps purpurea (see ergot). These alkaloids have also been produced synthetically. Newer hallucinogens, such as PCP (phencyclidine, or “angel dust”), a drug originally used as an anesthetic, and MDMA (“Ecstasy”), an amphetamine derivative, were common in the 1980s. [b]Marijuana has hallucinogenic properties but is pharmacologically distinct.[/b][/quote]
YMNolan Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 tough call. I picked the second option but 30 seconds later I'm not so sure it's the right one. Either way you're hurting your body, you're depending on something else to "calm you down" or "relieve stress". I don't know too many irregular pot users. I guess there are some people who can control themselves and use it once in a while but a lot more common are potheads. And I've seen some friends have their lives destroyed by a dependancy on marijuana. I've really grown to despise it. [quote]Pot on the other hand, cannot be consumed unless it is in excess. Everytime you smoke pot you mental capabilities are strained and your emotional outlook towards the world is distorted; hence you are 'drunk'.[/quote] This satement makes a lot of sense to me. I can enjoy a beer because it's refreshing and I like the taste, then not have another. At no point was I "under the influence". I've never heard of anyone smoking up because they like the taste. You smoke up because you wanna get high, no other ends to those means.
Anastasia13 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 How much smoking? How much alcohol and is it drunk "responsibly"?
sidemunch88 Posted February 10, 2006 Posted February 10, 2006 [quote name='Cow of Shame' date='Feb 10 2006, 11:59 AM']If you look up info on weed, hallucinations is listed as one of the effects. [right][snapback]882998[/snapback][/right] [/quote] DUDE pot is not a hallucinagentic i HAVE smoked pot before (don't send me to hell ) and i have never hallucinated before how much do you have to smoke to get all that crazy and if you smoke alot you will eventually pass out
kamiller42 Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 I assume if both are legal, then choosing not to do either would also be legal. Too bad that is not an option listed. I would choose that option.
crystalheart Posted February 11, 2006 Posted February 11, 2006 Pot ruins people....I've smoked it before and I didn't hallucinate, but it was very similar to hallucinating...I started "feeling" music, and felt like I was in water, swimming. It's different. Period. It just is. IMO alcohol in moderation is fine, smoking cigarettes, whatever. Pot in moderation? There is no such thing.
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