drinking

[dairygirl4u2c]

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[musturde]

No. If you feel a slight buzz you are not going to be doing stupid and crazy things. You won't be out of control and able to be either taken advantage of or able to do something stupid without really being conscious of it.

[Laudate_Dominum]

If the point is to chillax and party I don't think it's bad. It's bad when it is self destructive.
But then I suppose even drinking merely for a slight effect could be bad if it was habitual. If every night after work you had to get slightly tanked to function I'd say there was a problem. But if you're at a wedding and for celebration's sake you'd like to let your hair down a little bit and drink to hilarity I'd say this could even be commendable.

[Laudate_Dominum]

Although I suppose if a person was an alchoholic it could be bad to drink even a little.

[Guest VaticanFan]

I feel that drinking, be it to get a buzz, party, or any other reason is not so much a sin, however it is putting yourself into the temptation to sin. If one drink will lower your inhabitions, you are intentionally lower your defenses to the Devil, who as it says in the Bible, is Prowling around seeking the ruin of souls. So it may not be a sin, however it is in my opinion dumb because it can lead very easily to self destruction of your soul.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='VaticanFan' date='Feb 11 2006, 01:15 PM']I feel that drinking, be it to get a buzz, party, or any other reason is not so much a sin, however it is putting yourself into the temptation to sin.  If one drink will lower your inhabitions, you are intentionally lower your defenses to the Devil, who as it says in the Bible, is Prowling around seeking the ruin of souls. So it may not be a sin, however it is in my opinion dumb because it can lead very easily to self destruction of your soul.
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nah. it depends on the context, the state of soul of the person, etc.. lots of things.. that's why I don't like the question in the first place, drinking in itself is neutral.

[Era Might]

I strongly dislike drinking. One or two beers puts me to sleep.

[Laudate_Dominum]

[quote name='Era Might' date='Feb 11 2006, 01:52 PM']I strongly dislike drinking. One or two beers puts me to sleep.
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lucky. I wish I could get to sleep so easily.

[Socrates]

[quote name='VaticanFan' date='Feb 11 2006, 01:15 PM']I feel that drinking, be it to get a buzz, party, or any other reason is not so much a sin, however it is putting yourself into the temptation to sin.  If one drink will lower your inhabitions, you are intentionally lower your defenses to the Devil, who as it says in the Bible, is Prowling around seeking the ruin of souls. So it may not be a sin, however it is in my opinion dumb because it can lead very easily to self destruction of your soul.
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Having a single beer or so would not seriously lower the inhibitions of most people, or lead people into sin (unless they are someone who cannot have one drink without having another, and another . . .)

If any drinking in itself was something that easily leads to the destruction of the soul, Our Lord would not have turned water into wine, nor drank wine at the Last Supper.

Christ does not encourage that which leads to the destruction of the soul - "Lead us not into temptation."

[God the Father]

You kidzh and your non.......ALCo*hurk*holic buh...buh...bevvvvvverages!

Get out of my shhhhhhhite.

[Maria]

We can thank God for beer and burgundy by not drinking too much of them. -- Chesterton

[jezic]

personally, i feel that if you are drinking for a buzz, even a small one you are doing it for the wrong reasons.

I don't think we should ever act like that. it is like placing our own pleasure where God should be.

[Cow of Shame]

You feel a buzz much quicker if you throw a couple of bees in your drink.

Another round of sin for my 'mates!

[smeagol]

if you say getting drunk is bad. that is a BIG difference from saying that getting drunk is a sin!!!
to those who say it is a sin, i ask why. WHY is getting drunk a sin?

it may not be the smart thing to do but that's a far cry from something being sinful.

[Aloysius]

[quote name='jezic' date='Feb 11 2006, 10:41 PM']personally, i feel that if you are drinking for a buzz, even a small one you are doing it for the wrong reasons.

I don't think we should ever act like that. it is like placing our own pleasure where God should be.
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St. Thomas says to drink to "hilarity"

That's an obvious affect of alcohol, and it's an obvious reason for drinking alcohol.

If you drink it both to enjoy the tast and to enjoy the natural effects of it, in moderation, those are right reasons. And of course both of those reasons ultimately point towards thanking God for it.

[Church Punk]

I think that going out with your friends for a couple drinks is OK. I typically dont drink very much, or really get really drunk, I usually end up driving the other guys home. I should bring the video camera one night just to see the antics that happen!

I think that consistant a purposefully drinking in order to get drink is very sinful through.

[quote]St. Thomas says to drink to "hilarity"

That's an obvious affect of alcohol, and it's an obvious reason for drinking alcohol.

If you drink it both to enjoy the tast and to enjoy the natural effects of it, in moderation, those are right reasons. And of course both of those reasons ultimately point towards thanking God for it. [/quote]

I like this!

Edited February 13, 2006 by Church Punk

[Socrates]

[quote name='smeagol' date='Feb 12 2006, 01:22 AM']if you say getting drunk is bad. that is a BIG difference from saying that getting drunk is a sin!!!
to those who say it is a sin, i ask why. WHY is getting drunk a sin?

it may not be the smart thing to do but that's a far cry from something being sinful.
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It is sinful to willingly do damage to ourselves and to do things which remove the power of reason so that we lose proper control of our actions.

[MichaelFilo]

Nothing wrong with a drink once in a while, unless it's illegal for you. Same with smoking a little weed, unless it's illegal. Reality is, all of these things can hurt you, but so can driving a car, or walking on pavement (do youknow what kind of damage it does to your ankles?).

Anyways, it's not a sin. To find your joy in the bottle is a problem, whether moderate or otherwise. Aquinas makes it clear that the end of drinking is to loosen up, and St. Paul says it's end is to help when someone is sick. I've yet to hear of a Saint who endorsed drinking for pleasure, as that is hedonistic. We may do things for fun, but the bodily pleasures, like getting high, are not exactly appropriate when the end is fun, regardless of the nature of the means.

I plan to have a glass of wine everyday, once it's legal.

God bless,
Mikey

[ReinnieR]

where's jennie?

if she finds this thread she'll put a lampshade on her head again.

micah?

[Lounge Daddy]

i drink to sleep better... but that will end this week