History Of Transubstantiation

[Cure of Ars]

The second time Transubstantiation occurred was one the road to Emmaus. Jesus interpreted the Old Testament for them. That would have been amesome to hear all the explanations. But they still did not recognize Jesus.

And it happened that, while he was with them at table, he took bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them. With that their eyes were opened and they recognized him, but he vanished from their sight. Then they said to each other, "Were not our hearts burning (within us) while he spoke to us on the way and opened the scriptures to us?" (Luke 24:30-33)

Then the two recounted what had taken place on the way and how he was made known to them in the breaking of the bread.(Luke 24:35)

Clearly this is talking about the Eucharist and Jesus was “made known to them in the breaking of the bread”.

Compare the underlined section with the underlined words from the last supper.

When the hour came, he took his place at table with the apostles. He said to them, "I have eagerly desired to eat this Passover with you before I suffer, for, I tell you, I shall not eat it (again) until there is fulfillment in the kingdom of God." Then he took a cup, gave thanks, and said, "Take this and share it among yourselves; for I tell you (that) from this time on I shall not drink of the fruit of the vine until the kingdom of God comes." Then he took the bread, said the blessing, broke it, and gave it to them, saying, "This is my body, which will be given for you; do this in memory of me." And likewise the cup after they had eaten, saying, "This cup is the new covenant in my blood, which will be shed for you. (Luke 22:14-20)

Coincidence I think not.

[KennC]

When Christ prayed the prayer it happened immediately, thus when the priest prays in the person of Christ there is no reason not to believe it happens in the same time-frame.

... I have the book but will have to find it, but this act was explained as Christ Himself working through His Priesthood and the Priest, being one with, at each breaking of the Bread.

Peace of Christ, Ken

[Jake Huether]

Cure of Ars,

Excellent analysis! I had never thought of that. Yet another Biblical reference to the Eucharist, the True Presence of Jesus!

Thanks.

[Dave]

Regarding what mulls said about God not always answering prayers immediately, well, in the Mass, why would He have a reason for not always making the bread and wine the Body and Blood of Christ if the necessary requirements were met? See, in order for transubstantiation to occur, the material must be valid (in other words, a priest can't use, say, cinnamon rolls for the bread, nor can he use Coke or anything else for the wine), and he must have the intention of doing what the Church does when he consecrates the bread and wine, namely, turning them by God's power into the Body and Blood of Christ. Furthermore, the priest must be just that -- a priest -- not any regular Joe. Only a priest can consecrate.

If all the requirements for a valid Mass and consecration are present, then the bread and wine turn into the Body and Blood of Christ regardless of how holy the priest or congregation is, or how reverent the Mass is said, etc.

[Norseman82]

If all the requirements for a valid Mass and consecration are present, then the bread and wine turn into the Body and Blood of Christ regardless of how holy the priest or congregation is, or how reverent the Mass is said, etc.

Yes, that's what is known as ex opere operato - the fact that the action is performed, as opposed to ex opere operantis which is dependent upon the state of the person performing the work.

[JP2]

As for the second instance of Transsubstantiation, what about the passage (I forget which Gospel it's in) where the Apostles meet Christ on the road and they don't yet recognize him. They then go back to and share a meal. It is then at this instant that they recognize him "...in the breaking of the bread".

If that's not an instance of Transsubstantiation and quite possibly the world's first Eucharistic Miracle,then I don't know what is.

God Bless!

Jp2

[Jake Huether]

JP2,

Read the first post on this page (by Cure of Ars). You guys came to the same conclusion.

Good observation.