Aloysius Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 the idea is that in 50 years they won't be... the idea is that protestants are contracepting and Catholics are less likely to contracept... we're procreating faster! but Sinn Fein is gainin momentum. I know nothing will happen anytime soon, but it may happen within our lifetimes... anything's possible. of course, within our lifetimes Ireland may turn from a sovereign nation into a state that is accountable to a federal euro government... that may happen too... you never know.
Noel's angel Posted February 25, 2006 Posted February 25, 2006 and someday I might grow a beard...... It doesn't really help when the two biggest parties in Northern Ireland refuse to work together. Sinn Fein need to join the DPP and the DUP need to stop being hypocrites and instead of shaking hands with Sinn Fein in private and condemning them publically, give power-sharing a go. Peter Hain is obviously trying to get the Assembly up and running again what with the horrid water taxes, top-up fees etc. The education system is about to fall into ruins because our politicians won't give an inch.
RandomProddy Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 A man has been found guilty of assaulting the DUP East Antrim MP Sammy Wilson in Belfast. The politician was pushed up against a car after leaving a restaurant in the Botanic area in July 2004. Seamus O'Kane, 39 and from Cromwell Road in Belfast, will be sentenced at Belfast Magistrates Court next month. Magistrate Ken Nixon said because of aggravating factors there was a possibility that O'Kane, who has no criminal record, could go to prison. These included the defendant's "patent lying throughout the proceedings" and the "element of hatred involved", Mr Nixon said. Mr Wilson had told the court that O'Kane shouted into his face: "This is a Catholic area. Get out of here." He said O'Kane tried to kick him but missed and then pushed him up against a car and tried to hit him with the lead of his dog. O'Kane had claimed he was out for a walk with his son and dog when Mr Wilson walked through the lead sending the dog "into the air". The defendant had denied assaulting Mr Wilson or using any words that were political or sectarian. [url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4756690.stm"]http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/4756690.stm[/url]
Ash Wednesday Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 [quote]the idea is that in 50 years they won't be... the idea is that protestants are contracepting and Catholics are less likely to contracept... we're procreating faster![/quote] Are you sure about that? I've heard that Catholics contracept just as much as Protestants. I hope that isn't the case... but I'm a bit skeptical.
Noel's angel Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 okay.... Well there are A LOT of 'Catholics' over here who do use contraception...
Aloysius Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 [quote name='Ash Wednesday' date='Feb 27 2006, 12:59 PM']Are you sure about that? I've heard that Catholics contracept just as much as Protestants. I hope that isn't the case... but I'm a bit skeptical. [right][snapback]898922[/snapback][/right] [/quote] in America, yes. until very very recently in Ireland, no. Ireland is not quite as lost to the Church's teaching on birth control as other countries throughout western europe and america. Abortion is not even legal in the Republic yet, meaning contraception still isn't socially acceptable! (the two go hand in hand you know) the population numbers have shown a steady increase of Catholics and a steady decrease of Protestants throughout the decades of this century and I think the trend will continue.
sidemunch88 Posted February 27, 2006 Author Posted February 27, 2006 well the protistans die because the do not have many kids to kill the catholics and the catholic irish have lots of babys and kill all of the condom wearing protistants
Noel's angel Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Feb 27 2006, 06:30 PM']in America, yes. until very very recently in Ireland, no. Ireland is not quite as lost to the Church's teaching on birth control as other countries throughout western europe and america. Abortion is not even legal in the Republic yet, meaning contraception still isn't socially acceptable! (the two go hand in hand you know) the population numbers have shown a steady increase of Catholics and a steady decrease of Protestants throughout the decades of this century and I think the trend will continue. [right][snapback]898954[/snapback][/right] [/quote] erm, see my post above....
homeschoolmom Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 [quote name='sidemunch88' date='Feb 22 2006, 11:20 AM']when will the british monceys go back to their own island? [right][snapback]894752[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [quote name='sidemunch88' date='Feb 22 2006, 12:12 PM']God gave them their own island to live on, so why are they surprised when the Irish fight them? [right][snapback]894786[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [quote name='Aloysius' date='Feb 22 2006, 12:42 PM'] I do believe you've just solved the whole dilema! somebody must send a message to the Queen! she must not have realized this! she thought she could leave her monceys anwhere she wanted, little did she know that God had given her an island upon which to let her monceys live! I shall write the letter immediately [right][snapback]894801[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [quote name='sidemunch88' date='Feb 22 2006, 12:51 PM']Hey, I'm sorry that my eyboard doesn't have a "cay." [right][snapback]894811[/snapback][/right] [/quote] [quote name='Aloysuis' date='Feb 22 2006, 12:55 PM']I apologize sidemunch, I realize that you are cool and that I could only hope to aspire to dream about being that cool [right][snapback]894814[/snapback][/right] [/quote]
Aloysius Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 [quote name='Noel's angel' date='Feb 27 2006, 01:53 PM']erm, see my post above.... [right][snapback]898996[/snapback][/right] [/quote] that may very well be your experience, but I am pretty sure on the whole it is still not as bad as the rest of Western Europe and America; especially in the rural areas in the west of northern ireland.
Noel's angel Posted February 27, 2006 Posted February 27, 2006 Well, I dunno, but having lived here all my life, I think I know what goes on here. I know what goes on at my 'Catholic' school and other 'Catholic' schools... stick to what you know
ruso Posted March 2, 2006 Posted March 2, 2006 Slight dilema, in Navarra and basque country we have a similar problem, although theoretically all we are catholics.
Deeds Posted March 3, 2006 Posted March 3, 2006 [quote name='Aloysius' date='Feb 27 2006, 06:58 PM']that may very well be your experience, but I am pretty sure on the whole it is still not as bad as the rest of Western Europe and America; especially in the rural areas in the west of northern ireland. [right][snapback]899007[/snapback][/right] [/quote] If you're not quoting figures but going by "experience" then I'd defer to the person who lives there.
MagiDragon Posted March 4, 2006 Posted March 4, 2006 [quote name='Deeds' date='Mar 3 2006, 04:14 PM']If you're not quoting figures but going by "experience" then I'd defer to the person who lives there. [right][snapback]902568[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Actually, experience counts for very little; things are good or bad regardless of what our personal experience tells us. This belief is one of the things that has helped to keep modern heresies on their feet. Here's a brief caricature to illustrate: "You shouldn't kill that person." "Why not?" "Killing is bad." "How do you know? You've never experienced it, have you?"
Noel's angel Posted March 4, 2006 Posted March 4, 2006 It depends on what you mean by 'irish' I guess. I was thinking about the whole 'in so many years time, Catholics will out-number Protestants thing' and that has very little bearing on whther Ireland will be united once again. Not all Catholics are Nationalists.
Noel's angel Posted March 4, 2006 Posted March 4, 2006 [quote name='MagiDragon' date='Mar 4 2006, 03:48 PM']Actually, experience counts for very little; things are good or bad regardless of what our personal experience tells us. This belief is one of the things that has helped to keep modern heresies on their feet. Here's a brief caricature to illustrate: "You shouldn't kill that person." "Why not?" "Killing is bad." "How do you know? You've never experienced it, have you?" [right][snapback]902801[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Different context altogether. Deeds was stating that because I'm from Ireland I know more about what happens over here with regards to the use of contraception among Catholics than someone who doesn't live here
MagiDragon Posted March 6, 2006 Posted March 6, 2006 [quote name='Noel's angel' date='Mar 4 2006, 12:55 PM']Different context altogether. Deeds was stating that because I'm from Ireland I know more about what happens over here with regards to the use of contraception among Catholics than someone who doesn't live here [right][snapback]902898[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yeah, i realize that, I honestly shouldn't have posted, but I was just contemplating how much heresy is created by that type of statement, so i kindof jumped the gun. Sorry.
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