can homosexuality be overcome?

[Desert Walker]

It is certainly possible to overcome this. Here some steps:

1. Believe that it can be done

2. Ignore those who tell you it can't be done

3. Convince yourself that homosexuality is not natural -- that it is never an ingredient of the ideal person

4. Believe that heterosexuality is an ingredient of the ideal person

5. Modify your behavior to make yourself a living image of these three attitudes

[Church Punk]

I remember see a story on TV of a guy who was formerly gay then converted to Catholicism. He actually contracted AIDS and was still living his sinful life when he came to the end of his road and Jesus met him. I will always remember the words that he used. It was so moving.

He said the Jesus told him the "my blood will purge your blood" with that the man left and rejoiced and upon going to the doctor he discovered that the doctors could not figure out how it happen he was actually free from the AIDS virus!

He went on to have a wife and kids and live the hardcore Catholic life.

I dont know how true it is, but it was very inspiring.

[LouisvilleFan]

I voted yes, but I believe it's rarely possible. Most homosexuals won't become heteorsexual for the same reason heteorsexuals aren't becoming homosexuals. Bisexuals, however, are a different story, and I suspect that most of the stories of "change" we hear were just bisexuals who had suppressed their heteorsexuality. (but I may be wrong)

[thessalonian]

[quote name='Desert Walker' date='Mar 14 2006, 02:04 PM']It is certainly possible to overcome this.  Here some steps:

1. Believe that it can be done

2. Ignore those who tell you it can't be done

3. Convince yourself that homosexuality is not natural -- that it is never an ingredient of the ideal person

4. Believe that heterosexuality is an ingredient of the ideal person

5. Modify your behavior to make yourself a living image of these three attitudes
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A dose of God's grace MUST be added to this. We are powerless against sin on our own.

Edited March 14, 2006 by thessalonian

[ironmonk]

[quote name='rkwright' date='Mar 10 2006, 11:22 PM']An interesting aside one of my profs once made on this topic...

There is still a debate raging whether Homosexuality is a choice or a biological force of nature.  But one thing is for sure... there are those who were once homosexual that then changed and 'became' straight. 

He didn't take the next logical step, but I think you can see where he was going with it....
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Some try to say that it's the XY XX chromosone thing, but that fails because there are just as many straight people that have the same chromosones matching as homosexuals that do, and as many homosexuals that have "straight" chromosones.

It is not biological.

Attraction is developed.

It is not biological that we like blondes or red heads... it is not biological that we like fat or thin girls.... it is not biological that we are straight or have same sex attraction... Attraction is a behavior... behaviors are developed. There are many factors that affect our development.... someone might not be able to "help" that they have same sex attraction, but it is because of something in the way they developed... environment, choices made given certain situations, gender identification, etc... All of these factors come into play.

One of the first doctors that tried to say it was biological that got the whole bio bandwagon going was someone who had same sex attraction... he studied 12 dead people and determined that those who were "thought" to live a homosexual lifestyle had an enlarged hypothalemus.... he then concluded that it was biological... when something is biological, "it is beyond our control and not [i]our [/i]fault" - many of these studies that say "biological reasons" seem to be highly illogical and can easily be skewed.

As with any study can be easily skewed, the fact that for thousands of years it wasn't a big problem, simple reasoning, and basic logic speaks volumes... Attraction is developed. Peversity is developed also, homosexual acts are perverse... a prime example of how perversity is developed one only has to look at what is coming out of Japan for the past 20 years. <- In regards to this I'm not going into detail of the evils that no man should see... let alone conjure up... but my point being is that attraction, and attraction to perverse acts is developed... For anyone who has "studied" it and thinks otherwise; then they cannot see the forest through the trees. It is in plain sight.

EDIT: I don't want anyone to misunderstand what I am saying here, but I am trying to point out how far developed acts can go. Just when you think a deviance from the norm can't go any further, it can. From a psychological aspect of things I try to understand how people become the way they are.... I have been doing this since I was 12 when I wanted to be a pshrink... The things and people that some people are attracted to are in no way, shape, or form biological.

God Bless,
ironmonk

Edited March 15, 2006 by ironmonk

[ironmonk]

[quote name='Desert Walker' date='Mar 14 2006, 04:04 PM']It is certainly possible to overcome this.  Here some steps:

1. Believe that it can be done

2. Ignore those who tell you it can't be done

3. Convince yourself that homosexuality is not natural -- that it is never an ingredient of the ideal person

4. Believe that heterosexuality is an ingredient of the ideal person

5. Modify your behavior to make yourself a living image of these three attitudes
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Yes... exactly... with God's grace and if it is our will to do it, we can change.

I highly suggest reading "The Way to Happiness" by Archbiship Fulton Sheen.

God Bless,
ironmonk

[Desert Walker]

[quote name='thessalonian' date='Mar 14 2006, 03:39 PM']A dose of God's grace MUST be added to this.  We are powerless against sin on our own.
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Of course. God's grace is what makes such acts possible.

[infinitelord1]

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