Resurrexi Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 I'm just wondering what Edition of the Bible in the English Language most Phatmassers read. I read the DR Challoner Edition...
Charms717RM1 Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 (edited) I bought the NAB because it's what is used for readings at mass. At the time i didn't know what other Catholic versions there were, so i went out and got this one. I've heard some people complain about it, but I really wouldn't know the difference because this is the only one I've ever picked up and read. Lol, i've already paid for this one so I'm going to get my money's worth out of it before buying another translation. But i am open to advice/suggestions/opinions on which ones are better- espically ones that are well suited for study with footnotes. Maybe in a few years I'll pick up a different transalation. Edited April 2, 2006 by Charms717RM1
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted April 2, 2006 Posted April 2, 2006 i read the Confaternity addition or the Revised Standard Catholic Edition. i would prefer the D-R or Haydock or Challoner
Nathan Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) I own and utilize several translations -- Catholic and Protestant -- for different purposes. For serious study I like to go with formal equivalence, or literal, translations. I use: Douay-Rheims Version (DRV) Douay-Confraternity Version (DCV) Revised Standard Version (RSV) Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition (RSV-CE) Revised Standard Version, Second Catholic Edition (RSV-SCE) New Revised Standard Version (NRSV) New Revised Standard Version, Catholic Edition (NRSV-CE) English Standard Version (ESV) New King James Version (NKJV) Jewish Publication Society Tanakh (JPS) New Jewish Publication Society Tanakh (New JPS) For devotional reading and prayer, I generally reach for dynamic equivalence translations. I use: Jerusalem Bible (JB) Knox Bible (KB) New American Bible (NAB) The Grail Psalms (GS) For apologetics with fundamentalist/anti-Catholic Protestants, I use: King James Version (KJV) New International Version (NIV) New American Standard Bible (NASB) As you can probably guess, I'm one of those people who thinks it's a good idea to use a variety of translations -- at least more than one. All translations have their strengths and weaknesses. I love and wholeheartedly recommend the RSV-CE, but there are some renderings in the ESV, for instance, that are better; there are some renderings in the JB that are better than those in the DRV and KB, and vice-versa. Having a few different translations at ones disposal often leads one to a deeper understanding and appreciation of God's Word. Edited April 3, 2006 by Nathan
Tarcisius Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 I use the D-R Challoner, its great, but I would use the orig DR if I had access to one.
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 i also have the jerusalem bible. and the NRSV but i never use it! i almost got the NAB but i took it back!
Resurrexi Posted April 3, 2006 Author Posted April 3, 2006 Other than the DR Challoner, I have a four NABs and a New Jerusalem Bible. I really want to get rid of them...
EcceNovaFacioOmni Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Mostly the NAB because it is relatively readable and easily available online. I have a hard copy of the Revised Standard Version: Second Catholic Edition as well. I also cannot wait to dig into my new Haydock. And by they way... is the original DR even readable by modern English speakers? It is my understanding that it's full of latin and obsolete words.
HisChild Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 I currently have, as my personal use, the RSV-2nd CE, by Ignatius press. I also have, for study and comparisons, NAB, Jerusalem, and the DR-Challoner.
Nathan Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) [quote name='thedude' date='Apr 2 2006, 06:03 PM']And by they way... is the original DR even readable by modern English speakers? It is my understanding that it's full of latin and obsolete words.[right][snapback]933541[/snapback][/right][/quote] That's what I've heard as well. I would definitely like to own a copy of the original Douay-Rheims Version, but I doubt I'd read it often because of the archaic language. I don't use the Challoner revision all that much because of that reason. I've never understood the oft-heard sentiment that Bibles in Olde English sound "more dignified." To me, they just sound outdated and are difficult to understand. Edited April 3, 2006 by Nathan
Resurrexi Posted April 3, 2006 Author Posted April 3, 2006 [quote]I've never understood the oft-heard sentiment that Bibles in Olde English sound "more dignified." To me, they just sound outdated and are difficult to understand.[/quote] Just so you know, the English of both the DR Challoner and the Original DR, would be classified as Early Modern English rather than Old English. And, by the way, you are so naive to think that Early Modern English isnt more dignified than today's English.
Extra ecclesiam nulla salus Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 [quote name='Nathan' date='Apr 2 2006, 07:18 PM']That's what I've heard as well. I would definitely like to own a copy of the original Douay-Rheims Version, but I doubt I'd read it often because of the archaic language. I don't use the Challoner revision all that much because of that reason. I've never understood the oft-heard sentiment that Bibles in Olde English sound "more dignified." To me, they just sound outdated and are difficult to understand. [right][snapback]933555[/snapback][/right] [/quote] the original D-R has been updated to modern english, and the spelling has been changed.
Paladin Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 I'm still using a Catholic Bible Press NAB, though I'm hoping I'll get a fancy new 2nd Ed. RSV for Easter if I'm good. [quote name='StThomasMore' date='Apr 2 2006, 07:30 PM']And, by the way, you are so naive to think that Early Modern English isnt more dignified than today's English. [right][snapback]933567[/snapback][/right] [/quote] That's pretty uncharitable of you, friend. Let's not judge.
Paphnutius Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 [quote]The Grail Psalms (GS)[/quote]You use the Grail Psalter? I personally know the abbot that heads it up.
Peccator Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 I use a combination of the Ronald Know translation (which I really like, and my favourite translation by far!) and the Authorised version, better known as the King James. I do own quite a number of different translations..(as I find the Bible facinating and I like collecting the different version) : New King James, New International Version, New American Standard Bible, Revised Standard Version (Catholic edition), Today's English version (also one of my favourites), Amplified Bible, Douey-Rheims translation, Jerusalem Bible, Contemporary English Version , The Living Bible and the The Message. I do own Bibles in other languages as well as I find it a good tool to help you learn other languages and because my first language is not english: Afrikaans, German (Luther translation) Russian, the Latin Vulgate and the Greek new testement.
OLAM Dad Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 Mostly the RSV. I also have the DR but I'm not sure which version it is. It is in large, red with gold writing on the cover, and in two volumes. One is the old testament and the other the new. Anybody know which version this is?
Mrvoll Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 The Confraturinety Version. It is a revision of the Douay Rheims and it is used at the Indult Mass in Kitchener ON.
Nathan Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 [quote name='StThomasMore' date='Apr 2 2006, 06:30 PM']And, by the way, you are so naive to think that Early Modern English isnt more dignified than today's English.[right][snapback]933567[/snapback][/right][/quote] What makes it more "dignified"?
Peccator Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 (edited) Briefly speaking, language contributes to how we understand and perceive the world, it does this by acting as a medium by which ideas are conveyed and understood. That generally speaking is its agreed upon function. Now taking the development of language into account (changing of meaning over centuries especially), it seems silly to want to sacrifice the very understanding of the word of God in the name of making something more “dignified”...especially if the majority of the readers will not understand the historical meaning of the words (as they are not on the same Hermeneutical base) and when the more modernised translations can hardly be consider non-dignified, or disrespectful. Edited April 3, 2006 by Peccator
Paphnutius Posted April 3, 2006 Posted April 3, 2006 [quote name='Nathan' date='Apr 3 2006, 06:09 AM']What makes it more "dignified"? [right][snapback]933856[/snapback][/right] [/quote] Yes, pray tell, whyfor dost thou support such a doleful position?
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