More Mass Changes

[electricdisk]

Personally, I find this refreshing (in a way), but lo and behold, there are some people who seem to think they can act in place of the priest and they don't like it.

http://www.philly.com/mld/inquirer/news/local/7538931.htm

Jim Rosengarten gasped when he learned the Vatican wants him to stop calling himself a eucharistic minister.

Rosengarten may still distribute communion to shut-ins and at Mass at St. Vincent's parish in Germantown, as he has done for years.

But under the Roman Catholic Church's new guidelines for the celebration of Mass, the men and women who assist the priest this way are expected to henceforth use their proper titles. They are "extraordinary ministers of holy communion."

"Oh, my God," Rosengarten exclaimed. "What a shame."

Edited December 23, 2003 by electricdisk

[foundsheep]

Its about time.

[Ash Wednesday]

Thank God.

I've noticed an uprise in orthodoxy in the Church lately, especially with young people. It's refreshing.

[cmotherofpirl]

yep.

We instituted these norms starting in this past September.

[geetarplayer]

Jim used the Lord's name in vain.

-Mark

[hyperdulia again]

this article had me crackin' up y'all...american catholics are sad lazy disobedient people...we should trade with the anglicans, our heterodox psychos for their almost catholics.

[geetarplayer]

I think it's dumb that feminists think the Catholic Church is oppressing them.

-Mark

[cmotherofpirl]

think it's dumb that feminists think the Catholic Church is oppressing them.

word.

[Ash Wednesday]

The cynic in me says "why don't they just go become Episcopalians if they want feel-goody Catholic lite?" -- I get irritated by people that call themselves "Catholics" but enjoy the comforts of "do-it-yourself-religion"

Some Anglicans/Episcopals call themselves Catholic, and I never understood that.

*gotta stop before I sound too snotty*

*I should eat, I'm being grumpy*

:eat:

[Sinner]

To the best of my knowledge the GIRM has always used the term "extraordinary ministers of holy communion." Some of us have been cringing in the pews for some time now. My Parish bulletin continues to use the term continuously. As it is now, I am praying and waiting........ as is usual with disobedience --give em an inch and they'll take a mile.... hopefully it is ignorance on the part of most; but there are the few that use small issues of disobedience to gain footholds for larger issues.

[PedroX]

Sinner has a good point ( but a really scary avatar!) . Most of these "changes" are really what we should have been doing all along. It has never been OK for EEMs to break the bread, and our theology has never taught that the Priest and the congregation are one.

Bah Humbug!

peace...

[the_rev]

We put the changes in effect in our dioceses in Advent!

[Mary's Knight, La]

you could see virtually the whole parish isn't interested in loyalty to the church

[BLAZEr]

While some members of St. Vincent's have welcomed the return to strict practice, or orthopraxy, others are very upset, according to Rosengarten, a history teacher at Central High School. A few even wept when the parish made the changes.

Ummm, they wept? Something tells me these people need a life.

About 25 members of the parish have begun protesting the Vatican's changes by wrapping purple stoles, or scarves, at the base of the sanctuary cross after communion.

I wonder what kind of changes they would implement if they laid their sins at the foot of the cross rather than their clothes?

[cmotherofpirl]

Yep.

But you bet that thought never occurred to them.

[hopeful1]

i don't see what all the ruckus is about the changes in communion. THAT"S THE WAY IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE PEOPLE!!!

However, some of the priests at my parish do walk around while they give their homilies. I personally like that, i feel like that helps keep ppl's attention and it shows the priest is really into the homily. I don't see what is wrong with that, except maybe it could be a little distracting for some ppl " like where is this guy going to go now" instead of actually listening. but that's just my .02

[Aloysius]

now we just gotta get their hands out of the tabernacle, get em to stop asking for a billion Extraordinary Ministers of Communion, and possibly chase them out of the Church with a whip... well, we might haveta exhast other measures first,,, but seriously, i'm about ready to fassion a whip myself.

if i was the Pope, i'd send a message. a clear, strict one, and put it in place for about a month. NO EXTRAORDINARY MINISTERS OF COMMUNION AT ALL. Then, once everyone had experienced THAT, i'd be like, okay you learned your lesson, now stop all the abuses or i'll havta institute that discipline permanently.

seriously, the Vatican needs to crack the whip. it's gettin out of control.

[electricdisk]

Talk about "Church Militant" --- you guys are ROUGH!!! (that's a good thing) --- Every post on this thread is amesome! There is hope.... (eyes begin to water)....

Thank God for the people on Phatmass (and Phatmass) for keeping the faith alive....It is great to see such fire for the Church and her teachings.

[GodsThespianChic]

Personally, I'm an extraordinary minister of Holy Communion...but I would gladly give up the duty to a priest or clergy member...I do it because there is only 1, or maybe 2, priests at mass at a given time...and communion would take forever in my parish if they were the only ones to administer communion...so I don't see the problem, unless an extraordinary minister (EM) oversteps their duties.

[Seatbelt Blue]

I would never have known about this were it not for my internet connection. There has been absolutely no news about the GIRM in Richmond, nor have there been any liturgical changes. We never kneel here at Epiphany - no kneelers - and we have a pretty orthodox pastor, but there are a few inconsistencies. I'm not sure how the liturgy is supposed to go.

Maybe someone could provide me with a checklist of common liturgical abuses.