HPV Vaccine

[Dreamweaver]

There's also the issue of a number of other STDs that can and will be passed on through premarital sex.

[picchick]

I hope that people read this.

I think that as long as the vaccine is safe for them they should get it. HPV is a virus. Viruses can mutate to become stronger. They can mutate to find different ways of entering another host. Maybe someday the way to get HPV will be through water droplets.

Now there is the argument that kids will start having sex before marriage thinking that everything is ok. HOWEVER! Why do they need to know what this is for? When I got my vaccines I was told it would keep me healthy. Why cannot parents say, "This vaccine is to keep you safe from harmful diseases."? Then they can still teach them abstinence and such.

This is my view on the subject.
Meg

[homeschoolmom]

Kids are already getting a jillion shots all at once. When my son got his last set of shots (at like two, I think) they gave him FIVE SHOTS! and some of the shots are for more than one thing (Like MMR). That's a LOT of stuff to shoot into a person at once. Why can't they get this vaccine at 18? What's the big rush?

[frozencell]

Ya know...it's funny how moral dilemmas evaporate when you just do what you're supposed to in the first place.

Edited July 4, 2006 by frozencell

[MissScripture]

[quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1016661' date='Jul 3 2006, 11:01 AM']
Kids are already getting a jillion shots all at once. When my son got his last set of shots (at like two, I think) they gave him FIVE SHOTS! and some of the shots are for more than one thing (Like MMR). That's a LOT of stuff to shoot into a person at once. Why can't they get this vaccine at 18? What's the big rush?
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Not to mention that the vaccine needs to be re-given every 5 years, so if they got it at 12, they'd need it at 17 again, ANYWAY!

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

if she wants it, give it to her before she gets married.

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

On a related note - make sure your vaccines were not made with tissue from aborted fetuses. Check here for a list and ethical alternatives:
[url="http://www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm"]http://www.cogforlife.org/fetalvaccines.htm[/url]

[let_go_let_God]

I've wondered about this vaccine a bit, however, it is for a virus. Viruses change and alter for the conditions. If this vaccine works as it's supposed to, the viruses can change to reinfect the area and even effect the area worse. This vaccine may prevent diseases but in the long run, who says that it will actuall work? All in all I have very mixed feelings about this. Also this should not be given to 12 year olds.

God bless-
LGLG

[jkaands]

[quote name='notardillacid' post='1015028' date='Jun 29 2006, 10:29 PM']
Next time you let them stick that needle into your childs body remember that the WHO, in several countries, was giving females abortifacients and sterilizers in their vaccines without their consent or knowledge. So who really knows what is in a vaccine?
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Document, please, your allegation that WHO gave abortifacients and sterilizers in vaccines w/o their consent.

In this country, there are social groups who start having sex at age 9.

Re parental permission, parents are often the last to know about their children's sexual habits.

[picchick]

In order for it to take affect, I heard, it needs to be given at the early adolesence stage (like 9-12).

BUT again I say, why does the kid need to know what they are for? HSmom, does your son know what those last five shots were for? If he is like me then he doesn't. I mean now I know what they were for.

And what about the Hepatitis series? Did you know that Hepatitis C is contracted by blood and sexual contact? Yet we get the vaccine for this as well.

Meg

[homeschoolmom]

My upset isn't as much with the vaccine itself as it is with giving large quantities of vaccines all at the same time-- five shots is a LOT for one person (and a 20 pound one at that) to take all at once... the pain alone is pretty upsetting.

[MissScripture]

[quote]In the United States, most cases of cervical cancer linked to HPV are already prevented via programs that include Pap smear screening, with diagnosis and treatment of precancerous cervical lesions. However, a vaccine would still have many advantages; for example, it could reduce the numbers of women who have abnormal Pap smears and who then have to undergo colposcopy, biopsy and treatment.

"Treatments are low risk, but they still provoke anxiety and cost to women and their partners. Often, a woman who has an abnormal Pap smear will worry that she has cancer. In almost all cases, she will not but the worry is enormous," Koutsky says.

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[url="http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2002/11/021122075011.htm"]Source[/url]
Basically, what I'm understanding from this is that the main benefit of this vaccine is that people will worry less. Somehow, that doesn't seem like a legitimate reason to start giving this to 12 year olds.
Especially since I then read this:
[quote]Will girls/women who have been vaccinated still need cervical cancer screening?
Yes. There are three reasons why women will still need regular cervical cancer screening. First, the vaccine will NOT provide protection against all types of HPV that cause cervical cancer, so vaccinated women will still be at risk for some cancers. Second, some women may not get all required doses of the vaccine (or they may not get them at the right times), so they may not get the vaccine’s full benefits. Third, women may not get the full benefit of the vaccine if they receive it after they’ve already acquired a vaccine HPV type.

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[url="http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-HPV-Vaccine.htm#hpvvac1"]Source [/url]



[quote name='picchick' post='1019531' date='Jul 7 2006, 07:13 PM']
In order for it to take affect, I heard, it needs to be given at the early adolesence stage (like 9-12).


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That doesn't make sense, based on how vaccines work. If it wouldn't "take" later in life, you wouldn't be protected later in life. A vaccine basically exposes you to a small amount of the disease so that your body will create anti-bodies to the disease. In some cases (i.e. tetnus) the antibody production is reduced after a length of time and one must be given booster shots to insure protection. In regards to this vaccine I found: [quote]How long does vaccine protection last? Will a booster shot be needed?
The length of vaccine protection (immunity) is usually not known when a vaccine is first introduced. So far, studies have followed women for five years and found that they are protected. More research is being done to find out how long protection will last, and if a booster vaccine is needed years later. [/quote] [url="http://www.cdc.gov/std/hpv/STDFact-HPV-Vaccine.htm#hpvvac28"]source[/url]
If you can give a booster shot later, you would be able to give a vaccine then, too.