farewell to the United Nations?

[cmotherofpirl]

[url="http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1224"]http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1224[/url]

[Lounge Daddy]

very very interesting...

[quote]Historian David Littman is a representative to the United Nations (Geneva) of the Association for World Education. He has spent years tracking the rise of Islamic influence at the UN. According to him, “In recent years, representatives of some Muslim states have demanded, and often received, special treatment at the United Nations.” “As a result, non-diplomatic terms such as ‘blasphemy’ and ‘defamation of Islam’ have seeped into the United Nations system, leading to a situation in which non-Muslim governments accept certain rules of conduct in conformity with Islamic law (the Shari’a) and acquiesce to a self-imposed silence regarding topics touching on Islam.”

On August 5, 1990, the 19th Islamic Conference of Foreign Ministers adopted the Cairo Declaration on Human Rights in Islam. According to the official English version, “All the rights and freedoms stipulated in this Declaration are subject to the Islamic Shari’a.” The CDHRI has since then become “a quotable source at the United Nations.”

David Littman warns that “The new rules of conduct being imposed by the OIC [the Organization of the Islamic Conference], and acceded to by other states, give those who claim to represent Islam an exceptional status at the United Nations that has no legal basis and no precedent.” “Will a prohibition of discussion about certain political aspects of Islam become generally accepted at the United Nations and beyond, contradicting ‘the right to freedom of opinion and expression’ promised by Article XIX of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Unless farsighted states, both Muslim and non-Muslim, make it their business to assert and reassert the need for freedom of speech, this precious liberty is at risk of being eroded throughout the system of international organizations.”
[/quote]


Interesting that Islamic representatives are using claims of “racism” to censer critics from other nations of the politics and human rights violation of Islam around the world, and how Islamic nations have quite a bit of clout in the U.N.

This helps to understand how Israel is so readily condemned for Un peacekeeper deaths and civilian casualties
Although Islamofascist terrorists are launching rockets at civilians in Israel from UN peacekeeper outposts and civilian homes, thus using innocents as human shields… including many children
But Anon and others at the UN quickly condemn Israel. Freaking UN spineless jerks.

I see how Islamofascists would want to gain as much influence in the UN… It was essentially the UN who helped grant Israel its recognition as a nation, was it not?

[jswranch]

I truly believe western europe [u]could[/u] be overun by Islam in the next 70 years or so.

[Akalyte]

i dont like the UN, i dont like the idea of the UN. I think its an Anti-Christ orginization.I'm still wondering why Pope Paul VI said it was the last great hope for human kind. hmmm

Edited July 30, 2006 by Akalyte

[cmotherofpirl]

Because IF it were run properly it could be a great hope for the world.

[Tarcisius]

The UN is the public figurehead of the NWO, it is a tool of the antichrist.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='jswranch' post='1034434' date='Jul 30 2006, 05:08 PM']
I truly believe western europe [u]could[/u] be overun by Islam in the next 70 years or so.
[/quote]
hmmm... i think sooner

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote]David Littman warns that “The new rules of conduct being imposed by the OIC [the Organization of the Islamic Conference], and acceded to by other states, give those who claim to represent Islam an exceptional status at the United Nations that has no legal basis and no precedent.” “Will a prohibition of discussion about certain political aspects of Islam become generally accepted at the United Nations and beyond, contradicting ‘the right to freedom of opinion and expression’ promised by Article XIX of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights? Unless farsighted states, both Muslim and non-Muslim, make it their business to assert and reassert the need for freedom of speech, this precious liberty is at risk of being eroded throughout the system of international organizations.”[/quote]

I thought of this article as I watched the news of the UN and the situation with Israel and the Hezbos over there this past week...
A draft resolution that every one seemed to like was called unfair (and did I hear "racist" in some news coverage on the radio?)
So it was rewritten in such a way that the Hezbos are not required to immediately disarm
And Israel must wait for UN “peacekeepers” to arrive …meanwhile they may just be sitting ducks ---- and in the meantime Iran and Syria are quickly rearming Hezbollah and rebuilding their numbers.

[Budge]

hmmmm

[img]http://religion-cults.com/pope/pope-usa-un26.jpg[/img]

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='Budge' post='1045919' date='Aug 18 2006, 08:37 AM']
hmmmm

[img]http://religion-cults.com/pope/pope-usa-un26.jpg[/img]
[/quote]
Wow! Is that the ghost of Pope John Paul the Great reading a Vatican defense of Hezbollah to the UN?


Btw – I have no warm feeling toward the UN in any way, obviously. They have proven to be a bloated, impotent, bureaucratic, corrupt, nightmarish, waste of money and lives.

[Lounge Daddy]

[size=3]The current nightmare in the making:[/size]
[i]
[b][size=5]Israel says it would be "difficult if not inconceivable" to accept nations which do not recognise its right to exist as part of a UN force in Lebanon...[/size][/b][/i]
[size=2]Israel says it would be "difficult if not inconceivable" to accept nations which do not recognise its right to exist as part of a UN force in Lebanon.
[u]Israeli UN envoy Dan Gillerman was speaking after Indonesia and Malaysia, which do not recognise Israel, pledged troops for the UN deployment.[/u]
Malaysia said Israel should have no say in the make-up of the force.
The UN has expressed cautious optimism that it can deploy an initial 3,500-strong force within two weeks.
UN deputy chief Mark Malloch Brown warned earlier that delay could threaten the ceasefire....
France, which agreed to lead the force once its mandate had been set, said it would send only 200 extra troops immediately, far fewer than expected.
The UN had hoped for a larger European contingent and was disappointed by France's offer.
But [u]French Defence Minister Michele Alliot-Marie defended the decision. "You can't send in men telling them: Look what's going on but you don't have the right to defend yourself or to shoot," [/u]she told RTL radio.
Disappointment
As the UN's efforts to build the force continued, Mr Gillerman made clear Israel's unhappiness with some of the contributors.
"It would be very difficult if not inconceivable for Israel to accept troops from countries who do not recognise Israel, who have no diplomatic relations with Israel," he told the BBC.
He said they would be "very happy" to accept troops from Muslim countries they have friendly relations with.
"But to expect countries who don't even recognise Israel to guard Israel's safety I think would be a bit naive," he said.[/size]
[url="http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/5262490.stm"]--- BBC News[/url]

Edited August 20, 2006 by Lounge Daddy

[Lounge Daddy]

This is why “cease-fires” only cost lives in the end.
Wars need to be won, cease-fires prolong wars in the end, and delay the inevitable… and things are only worse when the UN is involved.

*1 – Most of the nations involved in the UN “peace-keeper” deployment are very anti-Israel, and don’t even recognize Israel as a sovereign state

*2 – Hezbollah, an extremist, lawless, gorilla terror organization that the UN demanded be disarmed in a previous resolution (what happened to that, btw?) is now treated as a legitimate sovereign entity, and is not required to disarm.

*3 – The msm seems to forget in their (I can hardly call it-) “in-depth coverage” of the Middle East that there ALREADY WAS a UN “peace-keeper” force in southern Lebanon; and these UN “peacekeeping” outposts were quickly and easily used by Hezbollah as rocket launching points into Israel – thus making their outposts military targets to Israel.

Impotent and useless – the UN costs more lives in the end… and this is esp true more and more these days as the UN has become co-opted and bribed by our enemies during these beginning stages of the WW3 against the entire west…

Farwell to the UN?
I hope so…

[Lounge Daddy]

[i][size=3][b]"President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave the West the Iranian bird..."[/b][/size][/i]

[quote]Just days before the United Nations Security Council deadline for Iran to cease and desist enriching uranium, President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad gave the West the Iranian bird. By inaugurating a "heavy-water" reactor, Iran instantly doubled its chances of acquiring nuclear weapons. Adding insult to injury, the military mullahs test-fired a new long-range missile -- the Thaqeb, or Saturn, a submarine-to-surface weapon.
The new reactor runs on natural uranium mined by Iran and skips the difficult enrichment phase to produce plutonium, which gives nukes the power to obliterate entire cities. Of course, all these efforts, says Iran's president, is to treat and diagnose AIDS and cancer patients. And -- we almost forgot -- to generate more power to improve agriculture. The fact Iran has sufficient oil reserves to generate electric power for generations to come is conveniently overlooked.
Iran is now confident neither Russia nor China will go along with meaningful economic sanctions...
[url="http://www.washtimes.com/commentary/20060828-101129-4021r.htm"]--- Washington Times | Aug 29, 2006[/url][/quote]

I am sure that the UN can be trusted only to sit on it's hands

Edited August 30, 2006 by Lounge Daddy

[stephen]

I'm not a fan of the U.N. at all, but it's interesting to witness who cries out the most for it's demise. It seems that having recognized the Zionist state, the UN has outlived it's usefulness--to them.

Look to the same people who call for the demise of the UN to promote the rise of the Sanhedrin in Jerusalem.

I can tell you all that if this does take place, there could be no worse news for true Christians.

Edited August 30, 2006 by stephen

[Lounge Daddy]

So, "Stephin" you Jew-bashing fool
the UN, and any international body are wrong for seeing Israel as a state?

why?

[stephen]

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1054393' date='Aug 31 2006, 12:46 PM']
So, "Stephin" you Jew-bashing fool ...[/quote]

These words are a reflection only of the one who wrote them.

[quote name='Lounge Daddy' post='1054393' date='Aug 31 2006, 12:46 PM'] ... the UN, and any international body are wrong for seeing Israel as a state?

why?
[/quote]

Thank you for the teaching opportunity, "Church Militant."

It's wrong to recognize the "Jewish state" which calls itself "Israel" as legitimate because it's God's express will that the Jews remain in exile until [i]He Himself[/i] restores them to the Holy Land; because God stated explicitly that the Israelites cannot occupy the Holy Land without [i]complete obedience to Him[/i]. The people who today call themselves "Jews" who unjustly occupy the Holy Land calling it "Israel" do not meet these and other conditions mandated by God. That's why.

Every Catholic ought to know this, "Church Militant." It's why the great Pope Saint, Pius X sent Theodore Herzl packing when he came to Rome foolishly seeking a papal blessing for the Zionist movement.

All of the ADL-style intimidation tactics in the world cannot change these facts.

Edited August 31, 2006 by stephen

[Budge]

I posted this on here, a long time ago...

Bears reading again..

[url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=13828&hl="]THE VATICAN AND UNITED NATIONS[/url]

[Lounge Daddy]

I thought about this "pc" hamstringing when I read about the Australian Catholic priests arrested for religious discussion…
[url="http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/new.php?n=8287"](STORY HERE)[/url]
These Priests were discussing the problems of religious dialogue, and were accused of having been negative and having "vilified Islam"
This brings a prison sentence in Australia.

Be warned.
The specter is spreading.

Edited December 17, 2006 by Lounge Daddy

[cathoholic_anonymous]

[quote]The specter is spreading.[/quote]

I think that Muslims have become the new 'reds under the beds'. Everyone was similarly terrified of a perceived spread of communism not so very long ago. Perhaps I am being short-sighted, but I don't believe that Islam is the threat that people seem to think. Nor do I believe that it's only Islamic influence that causes the UN to reprimand Israel. A lot of European governments dislike the blatantly preferential (and often downright hypocritical) treatment Israel receives from the US government.

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1144293' date='Dec 17 2006, 07:37 AM']
I think that Muslims have become the new 'reds under the beds'. Everyone was similarly terrified of a perceived spread of communism not so very long ago.
[/quote]

Ah, you have a few common misconceptions, first about the “red scare” being total bunk… next about the current global jihad.

#1 - The "perceived" spread of communism was real

[url="http://www.glennbeck.com/hots/printcommunistgoals.htm"]The following[/url] was entered into the Congressional record by Albert Herlong, Jr. (a Floridian who served in Congress from 1949-69) in 1963.
[quote]
[b]1963 Communist Goals[/b]
1) US acceptance of coexistence as the only alternative to atomic war
2) US willingness to capitulate in preference to engaging in atomic war
3) Develop the illusion that total disarmament by the US would be a demonstration of "moral strength"
4) Permit free trade between all nations regardless of Communist affiliation and regardless of whether or not items could be used for war.
5) Extension of long term loans to Russia and Soviet Satellites
6) Provide American aid to all nations regardless of Communist domination
7) Grant recognition of Red China, and admission of Red China to the UN.
8) Set up East and West Germany as separate states in spite of Khrushchev's promise in 1955 to settle the Germany question by free elections under supervision of the UN
9) Prolong the conferences to ban atomic tests because the US has agreed to suspend tests as long as negotiations are in progress
10) Allow all Soviet Satellites individual representation in the UN
11) Promote the UN as the only hope for mankind. If its charter is rewritten, demand that it be set up as a one world government with its own independent armed forces. (Some Communist leaders believe the world can be taken over as easily by the UN as by Moscow. Sometimes these two centers compete with each other as they are now doing in the Congo)
12) Resist any attempt to outlaw the Communist Party
13) Do away with loyalty oaths
14) Continue giving Russia access to the US Patent Office
15) Capture one or both of the political parties in the US
16) Use technical decisions of the courts to weaken basic American institutions, by claiming their activities violate civil rights.
17) Get control of the schools. Use them as transmission belts for Socialism, and current Communist propaganda. Soften the curriculum. Get control of teachers associations. Put the party line in text books.
18) Gain control of all student newspapers
19) Use student riots to foment public protests against programs or organizations which are under Communist attack.
20) Infiltrate the press. Get control of book review assignments, editorial writing, policy-making positions.
21) Gain control of key positions in radio, TV & motion pictures.
22) Continue discrediting American culture by degrading all form of artistic expression. An American Communist cell was told to "eliminate all good sculpture from parks and buildings", substitute shapeless, awkward, and meaningless forms.
23) Control art critics and directors of art museums. " Our plan is to promote ugliness, repulsive, meaningless art".
24) Eliminate all laws governing obscenity by calling them "censorship" and a violation of free speech and free press.
25) Break down cultural standards of morality by promoting pornography, and obscenity in books, magazines, motion pictures, radio and TV.
26) Present Homosexuality, degeneracy, and promiscuity as "normal, natural, and healthy".
27) Infiltrate the churches and replace revealed religion with "social" religion. Discredit the Bible and emphasize the need for intellectual maturity, which does not need a "religious crutch"
28) Eliminate prayer or any phase of religious expression in the schools on the grounds that it violates the principle of "separation of church and state"
29) Discredit the American Constitution by calling it inadequate, old fashioned, out of step with modern needs, a hindrance to cooperation between nations on a worldwide basis.
30) Discredit the American founding fathers. Present them as selfish aristocrats who had no concern for the "common man".
31) Belittle all forms of American culture and discourage the teaching of American history on the ground that it was only a minor part of "the big picture:" Give more emphasis to Russian history since the Communists took over.
32) Support any socialist movement to give centralized control over any part of the culture - - education, social agencies, welfare programs, mental health clinics, etc.
33) Eliminate all laws or procedures, which interfere with the operation of the Communist apparatus.
34) Eliminate the House Committee on Un-American Activities.
35) Discredit and eventually dismantle the FBI
36) Infiltrate and gain control of more unions.
37) Infiltrate and gain control of big business
38) Transfer some of the powers of arrest from the police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.
39) Dominate the psychiatric profession and use mental health laws as a means of gaining coercive control over those who oppose Communist goals.
40) Discredit the family as an institution. Encourage promiscuity and easy divorce.
41) Emphasize the need to raise children away from the negative influence of parents. Attribute prejudices, mental blocks and retarding of children to suppressive influence of parents.
42) Create the impression that violence and insurrection are legitimate aspects of the American tradition; that students and special interest groups should rise up and make a "united force" to solve economic, political, or social problems.
43) Overthrow all colonial governments before native populations are ready for self-government.
44) Internationalize the Panama Canal.
45) Repeal the Connally Reservation so the US can not prevent the World Court from seizing jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over domestic problems. Give the World Court jurisdiction over nations and individuals alike.
[/quote]

Take note of # 15) “Capture one or both of the political parties in the US” and note which political party, and it’s affiliates successful accomplished almost every goal of the communist movement in the USA.

The founder of the ACLU was quoted as saying “communism, that is the goal…”
The threat was real, and is real today.

Edited December 18, 2006 by Lounge Daddy