Intelligent Life

[dairygirl4u2c]

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[chris]

There is so much for it and there is so much against it. Do I think that Area 91 has spaceships in it? Personally, I wouldnt know why the government would have a need to hide what would eventually become a widespread body of knowledge. And if there are so many facts about it and the happenings at Roswell then it would then in turn be pointless to hide the ships. Could aliens rull out the possiblities of Christ? No, not nessessarily...There is no record of other life in the Bible...This doesnt mean that God didnt created any.

So, I dont know...

[heavenseeker]

IDK. do i think there is other life out there? Yes. Have they made trips to Earth? hard to tell. Sure there are crop circles but those can be made by people. The same gois with the giand carvings in South America. Its just too hard to be sure if aliens have been to earth or not.

[Lounge Daddy]

Personally, I tend to think a small some of the “ufo” sightings are people seeing Venus or on drugs or both… and most of the “ufo” sightings…say 95 - 99% are government craft – secret “area 51” type projects that we will see publicly years later

That said… the stuff that blows me away are the huge mass sighting that get so little coverage (government cover-up anyone?)
The most notable being the 1997 “Phoenix Lights Incident” …an entire major city witnesses a massive UFO phenomena and it goes unreported the next day, and for a week, until 3 months later it gets slight mention in the msm and even then the reports were treated like a hillbilly describing a tornado

The big question I have is this: assuming every ufo is simply a government “black project” [u]…why-the-heck would the government fly a top-secret project over a major city during the evening and scare the carp out the citizen population?[/u]

LINKS:
[url="http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/"]CNN report, June 19, 1997[/url]
a contested Wikipedia entry exists also [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phoenix_Lights"]HERE[/url]

Edited August 3, 2006 by Lounge Daddy

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

I do not think we have been visited and I also do not think there is life outside our planet.

[Jeff]

[quote name='thedude' post='1036855' date='Aug 3 2006, 10:55 AM']
I do not think we have been visited and I also do not think there is life outside our planet.
[/quote]

"What a waste of space."
-Jodi Foster, Contact

[dairygirl4u2c]

if you come back to this thread, the dude, what do you suppose of that craft in that link?
[url="http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/"]http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/[/url]

and about the many other personal accounts?

[Resurrexi]

It is impossible for intelligent life to be visiting humans on earth becuase to be intelligent, a being must have a spirit, and in the case of beings that are not pure spirits or subtle matter, their spirit must also be a soul. Since the only beings not composed of pure spirit or subtle matter given a spirit by the Most Holy and Blessed Trinity were Adam, along with his wife and decendents, there can be no other intelligent life not composed of pure spirit or subtle matter.

[dairygirl4u2c]

Does the bible say that they were the only ones who got all that spirit and stuff? I must be missing something. Or is it your personal idea that they were the only ones?

[Resurrexi]

Well even if there were other creatures not made of pure spirit or subtle matter with spirits they would be inferior to Man seeing as Man is the greatest of God's creatures after the Angels. Therefore, there could be no intelligent life not made of pure spirit or subtle matter superior to man anywhere in the universe.

[EcceNovaFacioOmni]

[quote name='dairygirl4u2c' post='1040147' date='Aug 9 2006, 10:15 AM']
if you come back to this thread, the dude, what do you suppose of that craft in that link?
[url="http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/"]http://www.cnn.com/US/9706/19/ufo.lights/[/url]

and about the many other personal accounts?
[/quote]
Could have been anything I guess. I just do not believe it was extraterrestrials.

[dairygirl4u2c]

does the bible say we are the greatest of God's creatures? does it say we can't have equals?

[Resurrexi]

Well, we can't have equals becuase we were given the authority over all other non-Angelic creatures.

"And he said: Let us make man to our image and likeness: and let him have dominion over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and the beasts, and the whole earth, and every creeping creature that moveth upon the earth. 27 And God created man to his own image: to the image of God he created him: male and female he created them. 28 And God blessed them, saying: Increase and multiply, and fill the earth, and subdue it, and rule over the fishes of the sea, and the fowls of the air, and all living creatures that move upon the earth."

[zwergel88]

I tend to think that, yes, there is intelligent life out there and that they have in fact visited us. I am of the opinion that an extraterrestrial craft did in fact crash at Roswell and the government has subsequently reverse engineered that craft for use if the making of superior defense equipment. I also think that the multitude of other UFO sightings over the years have been a mixture of extraterrestrials coming to study our planets, and terrestrial government stealth craft.

I really do think that there is alien life out there and it remains to be seen whether their intentions are benevolent or whether they intend to colonize our planet.

[Resurrexi]

I think it's heresy to believe in intelligent non-pure spirit/subtle matter life that does not live on Earth.

[Jeff]

[quote name='StThomasMore' post='1041627' date='Aug 11 2006, 03:46 PM']
I think it's heresy to believe in intelligent non-pure spirit/subtle matter life that does not live on Earth.
[/quote]

It's not heresy, and I doubt you can find a quote from a pre-vaticanII Pope to support that contention.

That quote about burning bibles by Pius X has to be one of the stupidist things a pope has ever said.

[Resurrexi]

Well, it's a mortal sin to disrespect the Holy Roman Pontiff or to call the contents of their catechisms stupid. How would you like it if I said that everything in the Catechism of the Catholic Church were stupid (which, by the way, I do not think. The Catechism of the Catholic Church, in its original Latin is a very good and orthodox catechism)

[Lounge Daddy]

[quote name='zwergel88' post='1041587' date='Aug 11 2006, 02:39 PM']
I tend to think that, yes, there is intelligent life out there and that they have in fact visited us...
[/quote]

Zwergel... I can honestly say that this is probably the only thing that I actually agree with you on
hehe
It's at the very least an interesting this to look at what happened that day in Roswell

[dairygirl4u2c]

[quote]I think it's heresy to believe in intelligent non-pure spirit/subtle matter life that does not live on Earth.[/quote]

I do wonder what you base that on. As challenged above, I doubt ou could find an official Church document saying what you said. If anything, the documents would say, if there is life, it is part of God's creation.

Biblically, you have found nothing but appear to be grasphing at straws with that Genesis citation. It simply says that man is greatest on the earth and shall subdue it, that's it. There could eb life out there not on earth. There could be life that comes later to this earth, though I could even grant that this can't happen for the sake of argument as it has not happened at least yet. You seem like some of those crazy protestants who make outlandish claims then find a sliver of something that might mean what you hope it does.

Though I am confused with what you're saying with "non-pure" spirit etc. I assume you think if there's anything other than us, it would have to be non-pure, because of what you think the bible says. but hten if it's nonpure then it doesn't contradict the bible. so really i have no idea what you're basing it on. I don't know why you think it can't be "pure" if it existed. and i dont know why it can't exist to begin with according to CC teaching.

Edited August 12, 2006 by dairygirl4u2c

[Resurrexi]

A pure spirit is a spirit that is purely spirit. God is a pure spirit. Some claim that angels are also purely spirit. Prior to St. Aquinas, I think, it was thought that angels were made of "subtle matter", and that only the substance of God was pure spirit. Basically, what I'm saying, is that I do not belive that there are any other creatures in the universe that are non-Angelic (i.e. creatures made of either pure spirit or subtle matter)