SJP Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 REMEMBRANCE Billy Graham: Pope John Paul II Was "Most Influential Voice" in 100 Years By Michael Ireland Chief Correspondent, ASSIST News Service CBN.com – LOS ANGELES, CALIFORNIA (ANS) -- Speaking on the April 2 edition of CNN's Larry King Live program [u]Dr. Billy Graham said that that Pope John Paul II was the most influential voice for morality and peace in the world in the last 100 years.[/u] Dr. Graham told Larry King he had the privilege of seeing the Pope on several occasions at the Vatican. "And tonight, I have a very strange feeling of loss. I almost feel as though one of my family members has gone. I loved him very much and had the opportunity of discussing so many things with him. And we wrote each other several times during the years," Dr. Graham said. Larry King asked Dr. Graham: "Did he actually say to you once, "We are brothers' "? GRAHAM: That's correct. He certainly did. He held my hand the first time that I met him about 1981 -- he'd just been Pope for two years when I saw him first. Because when he was elevated to the papacy, I was preaching in his cathedral in Krakow that very day. And we had thousands of people in the streets. And watching the television today of Krakow has brought back many memories. KING: You said that he was an Evangelist. GRAHAM: He was, indeed. He traveled throughout the world to bring his Christian message to the world. And we see tonight the outpouring from the world that he touched. And I think he touched almost everybody in the whole world. KING: What, Billy, in your thoughts -- you said you feel like it's a personal loss. What in the human sense was so special about him? GRAHAM: I think it was his background in Poland. And I had finished preaching all over Poland, gotten to know many people, and I knew a little bit about where he came from. "And he was a suffering pope, too. He suffered as much as anybody you could ever imagine. His mother died when he was young. And he had that terrible assassination attack. And through it all, he taught us how to suffer. And I think in recent days he's taught us how to die. KING: There is no question in your mind that he is with God now? GRAHAM: Oh, no. There may be a question about my own, but I don't think Cardinal Wojtyla, or the Pope -- I think he's with the Lord, because he believed. He believed in the Cross. That was his focus throughout his ministry, the Cross, no matter if you were talking to him from personal issue or an ethical problem, he felt that there was the answer to all of our problems, the cross and the resurrection. And he was a strong believer. KING: I understand that you've been invited to the funeral, but because of your own health, you can't attend. But someone in the Graham family is going to go? GRAHAM: That's correct. KING: Do you know who will go? GRAHAM: I don't have the physical strength to go, and I have been invited. I was invited about six or seven months ago by the Vatican ahead of time. And they've asked that I come. So I asked if I could send my daughter. They wanted a woman to come representing me. So I'm asking my daughter, Anne Lotz, to go. And she's going with an associate of mine. And then my son, Franklin, will be going to the enthronement of the new Pope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lil Red Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 [quote name='SJP' post='1041461' date='Aug 11 2006, 11:15 AM']Because when he was elevated to the papacy, I was preaching in his cathedral in Krakow that very day. And we had thousands of people in the streets. And watching the television today of Krakow has brought back many memories.[/quote]why was Billy Graham preaching in the cathedral? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutychus Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Billy sold out early on in his career, fame and glory were more important to him than anything else. Billy like Mommy T, and JPII were media creatures, with images carefully created and nutured more to hide reality, than to illuminate inner truths. [img]http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/1891117173.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg[/img] [quote] FINALLY, THE TRUTH ABOUT BILLY GRAHAM, July 10, 2002 Reviewer: Kelleigh Nelson "Kelleigh Nelson" (Knoxville, TN) Actually, I've known a good bit about Graham for years, but this book really puts it in perspective, and Graham's own quotes tell what he really believes. Why is it that Graham gets invited to the White House no matter who the president is or what he believes, and what does Graham say about it? Why is it that Graham gets along so well with new ager Schuller of the Crystal Cathedral? Read Graham's quotes regarding same. And what did Graham say about how nature leads one to God? Amazing quotes and this is just a miniscule bit of what this book contains. Get it, read it, pass it on to friends. Billy Graham is not the great Christian preacher so many think he is. Excellent research, I'd recommend it to everyone.[/quote] [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1891117173/sr=8-1/qid=1155326654/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-1038508-2586255?ie=UTF8"]MORE REVIEWS AND INFORMATION[/url] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stbernardLT Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' date='Aug 11 2006, 02:07 PM' post='1041603'] Billy sold out early on in his career, fame and glory were more important to him than anything else. Billy like Mommy T, and JPII were media creatures, with images carefully created and nutured more to hide reality, than to illuminate inner truths. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Era Might Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 Billy Ghram is kewl. By the way, why is this in the debate phorum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mateo el Feo Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' post='1041603' date='Aug 11 2006, 03:07 PM']Billy sold out early on in his career, fame and glory were more important to him than anything else. [/quote]Does this mean that he "lost" his assured salvation (i.e. OSAS)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 [quote] why was Billy Graham preaching in the cathedral? blink.gif [/quote] good question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eutychus Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 [quote] Does this mean that he "lost" his assured salvation (i.e. OSAS)?[/quote] One would think not, but the REWARDS may be affected by a teacher not holding to sound doctrine. [quote]Jas 3:1 [color="#333399"][b]Be not many of you teachers, my brethren, knowing that we shall receive heavier judgment.[/b][[/color]/quote] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zunshynn Posted August 11, 2006 Share Posted August 11, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' post='1041603' date='Aug 11 2006, 12:07 PM'] Billy sold out early on in his career, fame and glory were more important to him than anything else. Billy like Mommy T, and JPII were media creatures, with images carefully created and nutured more to hide reality, than to illuminate inner truths. [img]http://ec1.images-amazon.com/images/P/1891117173.01._AA240_SCLZZZZZZZ_.jpg[/img] [url="http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1891117173/sr=8-1/qid=1155326654/ref=pd_bbs_1/103-1038508-2586255?ie=UTF8"]MORE REVIEWS AND INFORMATION[/url] [/quote] Right but you're one of the elect few that were chosen to be in on these "inner truths". But of course. You seem awfully arrogant. [quote name='Lil Red' post='1041479' date='Aug 11 2006, 09:23 AM'] why was Billy Graham preaching in the cathedral? [/quote] It wasn't during a mass. But I do recall hearing that Jp2 invited him to come speak on a specific issue... don't remember what it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Resurrexi Posted August 12, 2006 Share Posted August 12, 2006 I don't think that even a papal invitation justifies a Dogmata denier to preach in a Catholic Cathedral Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lounge Daddy Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 I honestly believe Rev. Billy Graham may very well be the USA's most influential Christian ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Didacus Posted August 18, 2006 Share Posted August 18, 2006 [quote]"And he was a suffering pope, too. He suffered as much as anybody you could ever imagine. His mother died when he was young. And he had that terrible assassination attack. And through it all, he taught us how to suffer. And I think in recent days he's taught us how to die.[/quote] ya... that's my papa alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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