Everybody Relax

[Aloysius]

Budge, his comment about the Assosiated Press clearly incinuated that their description of why it was probably a fraud was probably biased, not that they lied about the Pope visiting it.

The rest of this is calling attention to your improper usage of the word "Roman Catholic Church" to refer to the religion which you so intensly dislike. "The Roman Catholic Church" is merely the largest sui juris church body in a communion of around 23 large sui juris churches which all agree on what we determine to be "the essentials" of Christianity. this communion is a perfect manifestation of what the phrase "in essentials unity, in non-essentials diversity" should mean because it's the only model that really holds an actual unity in what they even consider 'essential'

[quote]I don't really have anything constructive to say, but I would like to offer my observation that Budge, you're a generally very unpleasant human being.[/quote]
[quote]A post or comment that has nothing to do with the topic, but is specifically meant to upset or criticize another person or group of people. This includes, but is not limited to, calling people "heretics" (used in a derogatory manner), "democrooks", etc.
[/quote]

please, please, please let us all practice charity. seeing as for a long period budge and eutychus were given a certain leniency, I'm not doing anything to this comment now (he already saw it anyway and had a field day claiming it proved he was right for being 'hated' or 'persecuted' or something... not quite sure what he intended to say about himself with all the verses he posted) but there is a strict rule against AD HOMINEM arguments.

[DAF]

But 1) I was just being honest, and 2) I had a smiley face after it

Juuust kidding, 'sorry Budge' *draws line in dirt with toe*

[Winchester]

[quote name='Budge' post='1056462' date='Sep 4 2006, 09:55 AM']
No response from the pirate?

When hes PROVEN wrong?

{i love how some go poof at appropriate times}
[/quote]

Sorry I didn't check Phatmass as often as you'd like me to. And you pay me so generously...I feel bad.

Aloy,

Exactry. I was pretty sure the Pope did visit the place. The presentation is what I doubt. In fact, Benny looks bemused. They're good pictures. The AP is not known for presenting a balanced account.

Future reference, lest I upset those trying to help me escape from the clutches of the Whore of Babylon:

I have two jobs that involve 24 hour shifts. I have internet access at these jobs, but sometimes I'm kind of busy or asleep or watching television or worshipping idols, selling indulgences on Ebay (or bidding on really good ones) or any number of activities that do not involve Phatmass. (Sorry, dUSt.) I don't mean anything by it. Understand that I am completely amused by your "attacks" on Mother Church, I truly am. You are certainly worthy of mockery and baiting, and I am sorry to have neglected so entertaining and resilient an opponant. I promise you it will happen again.

[Budge]

[quote]The presentation is what I doubt.[/quote]
[quote]
Denial is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person faced with a fact that is uncomfortable or painful to accept rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.[/quote]

[Winchester]

I forgot that AP reports are overwhelming evidence. Sometimes I forget the international media is in the business of presenting all the facts and interviewing all parties.

Thank you for pointing out my denial. I shall consult a psychologist forthwith.

Who do you use?

[Winchester]

[quote name='Budge' post='1056462' date='Sep 4 2006, 09:55 AM']
No response from the pirate?

When hes PROVEN wrong?

{i love how some go poof at appropriate times}
[/quote]

I just thought this bore repeating. It does illustrate the tendency to attach the most negative spin on occurences.

When you make an assumption, you make and ass out of you and umption.

[Budge]

[img]http://www.catholicpressphoto.com/servizi/2006-09-01-VISITA-MANOPPELLO/images/prevs/2006-09-01-manoppello%20004.jpg[/img]

Does this LOOK real to you?

Looks like a cartoon figure Medieval style with big bulgy eyes.

[Fides_et_Ratio]

Did Jesus LOOK like God on the cross, crucified next to criminals, writhing in pain, and bleeding?

Appearances aren't everything.

[Theoketos]

[quote name='Budge' post='1057062' date='Sep 5 2006, 11:40 AM']
[img]http://www.catholicpressphoto.com/servizi/2006-09-01-VISITA-MANOPPELLO/images/prevs/2006-09-01-manoppello%20004.jpg[/img]

Does this LOOK real to you?

Looks like a cartoon figure Medieval style with big bulgy eyes.
[/quote]

That is an interesting philosophical question. Modernity is not sure anything is real. But I am practical person and think that it looks like it actually exsists.

Also, Medieval art is more then big buldgy eyes.

[Winchester]

Budge, Do you know what a tertiary source is?

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

why does it matter if it is real or not to Budge?

maybe you should focus your attacks on theology and not wether or not a relic has "big bulgy eyes", O god!!!!!!!!!

honestly, even if it was a fake that in no way has no impact on the legitimacy of Our Holy Religion.

[Budge]

Obviously phony relics, and play-religion for poor deluded peasants, LIMITS your church's credibility.

and it does matter if its real...

just the fact that no one here cares if it is real or not proves that you do not stand for truth.

[Extra ecclesiam nulla salus]

[quote name='Budge' post='1057306' date='Sep 5 2006, 09:01 PM']
Obviously phony relics, and play-religion for poor deluded peasants, LIMITS your church's credibility.

and it does matter if its real...

just the fact that no one here cares if it is real or not proves that you do not stand for truth.
[/quote]

Phony relics harldy prove the religion to be wrong. The Church never claimed that any of these relics were legitimate, and just because you think they are fake doesn't mean anything, you are hardly an authority on the subject.

It does matter if it is real. but i wouldn't stake the world on it.

hahah that hardly proves that we do not stand for truth. Catholics more thank anyone stand for truth.

[Winchester]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1057219' date='Sep 5 2006, 05:29 PM']
Budge, Do you know what a tertiary source is?
[/quote]

Budge, do you know what a teritiary source is?

[PadrePioOfPietrelcino]

Denial is a psychological defense mechanism in which a person faced with a fact that is uncomfortable or painful to accept rejects it instead, insisting that it is not true despite what may be overwhelming evidence.

Budge is that why you deny the Catholic Church is the Church founded by Christ through Peter?

[Winchester]

[quote name='Winchester' post='1057777' date='Sep 6 2006, 11:46 AM']
Budge, do you know what a teritiary source is?
[/quote]

Who would?

Tertiary. Sorry.

[Winchester]

this one's still here.

tertiary tertiary.

[Winchester]

Here's another one that you let lie, Budgie.

You accused me of something, and I explained. You could have acknowledged.

There's a theory of debate that I've read. One of the precepts is never admitting you're wrong. It's certainly tempting. I've been known to indulge in it myself; I'm not perfect. NO, it's true! I think it's a terrible tactic myself, although I have fallen prey to it myself.

[Winchester]

Ahem.

[Thy Geekdom Come]

Budge, come and get your red badge of courage...don't flee the fight...