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zunshynn Posted September 5, 2006 Posted September 5, 2006 More pictures for my screensaver! Muchos Gracias!
zunshynn Posted September 5, 2006 Posted September 5, 2006 Although that Brazilian Carmelites one had TONS of liturgical abuses
ruso Posted September 5, 2006 Author Posted September 5, 2006 [quote name='zunshynn' post='1056868' date='Sep 5 2006, 04:32 AM'] Although that Brazilian Carmelites one had TONS of liturgical abuses [/quote] Why?. Is a new institute with only 21 years, very tradicional.
zunshynn Posted September 5, 2006 Posted September 5, 2006 Umm, well it's not in the formation pictures. It's in the galeria de fotos. Glass containers for the Eucharist at communion, gathering around the altar and holding hands with the priest during the consecration,the sisters washing each others feet on Holy Thursday, a lot of dancing during mass, using keyboards and drums, to name a few that stood out.
ruso Posted September 5, 2006 Author Posted September 5, 2006 (edited) Huy that serious. Responds to a mass of natives-American in some reserve, or Charismatic, or to my parish, or where I went to mass this Sunday in Mexico......... I to your age was but firm that your with these things. Ah more of poland: Dominics [url="http://www.dominikanki.pl/jakbyc.htm"]http://www.dominikanki.pl/jakbyc.htm[/url] Carmelite [url="http://www.karmelitanki.pl/formacja/index.html"]http://www.karmelitanki.pl/formacja/index.html[/url] Benedictines [url="http://www.benedyktynki.opoka.net.pl/index2b71.html"]http://www.benedyktynki.opoka.net.pl/index2b71.html[/url] Edited September 5, 2006 by ruso
Veritas Posted September 5, 2006 Posted September 5, 2006 + Ruso, THANK YOU for all these links! Ah, Poland --it must be SO wonderful to live in a Catholic nation, and so many vocations, is it any wonder? Blessings.
brandelynmarie Posted September 5, 2006 Posted September 5, 2006 gotta get on a faster computer.....I can't wait to see all these photos!
franciscanheart Posted September 5, 2006 Posted September 5, 2006 wait... drums at Mass is against the rules? what kind of drums? are we talking rock band drums or tympanies?
zunshynn Posted September 5, 2006 Posted September 5, 2006 Well, technically, from what I've read on the Q&A forum, percussion and even piano and guitar are not appropriate for mass at all. Obviously most parishes are not aware of this (mine included) or don't pay attention to that, so it wasn't one of the more glaring abuses in the pictures, but yeah.
awyers Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 [quote name='zunshynn' post='1057288' date='Sep 5 2006, 06:35 PM'] Well, technically, from what I've read on the Q&A forum, percussion and even piano and guitar are not appropriate for mass at all. Obviously most parishes are not aware of this (mine included) or don't pay attention to that, so it wasn't one of the more glaring abuses in the pictures, but yeah. [/quote] Ok whoa!! Where can I find some official info on this? I tried google but couldnt find anything concrete other then people's opinions. I am especially worried because I play guitar in a choir at mass and I would like to know if I am doing something wrong??
zunshynn Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 Cam points out a number of documents [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=53270&hl=guitar"]here[/url] and also [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=50426&hl=guitar"]here[/url] regarding music during Mass. The first one is his most concise answer though. I hope that helps... Obviously it's something quite ingrained in most parishes... it would be hard to change... but yeah.
awyers Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 I hope that helps... Obviously it's something quite ingrained in most parishes... it would be hard to change... but yeah. [/quote] Thanks! I kinda feel like the carpet has been pulled out from under me! I guess I should bring this up with my priest and stop playing in the choir At first this was kinda hard to accept since I thought the music and some of the other practices were drawing people to church but now I can see that it is more about our entertainment then the pure worship of God due to him at mass. Whoa! Yet another eye opening night lol
nowak.chris Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 [quote name='zunshynn' post='1057418' date='Sep 5 2006, 11:35 PM'] Cam points out a number of documents [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=53270&hl=guitar"]here[/url] and also [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=50426&hl=guitar"]here[/url] regarding music during Mass. The first one is his most concise answer though. I hope that helps... Obviously it's something quite ingrained in most parishes... it would be hard to change... but yeah. [/quote] Wow, I go away for a while, and Cam becomes concise (let me take a look, oh concise for Cam...) He really should write a book on the liturgy. Cardinal Arinze was quoted a few months ago as saying, "I won't say no guitars ever, but..." It is definitaely not prefered, but tolerated (for the time being). chris
zunshynn Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 I had a really hard time when someone pointed out what was wrong with the more modern music at Mass. I kind of thought? Who are they to dictate how we worship God? But then slowly I started to realize how we're missing so much really, now that all of the beautiful music of our church has been abandoned. I love the contemporary stuff—I listen to it constantly at home. But I realized that it really would be nice to have something transcendent of time at mass. Because we are entering out of time into eternity, and I think that's the message the Church is trying to give us by insisting on the use of truly sacred music. To help us, and of course, to remind us that Mass isn't about us really. I mean it is, but it's about what God is giving to us, not what we're giving to Him, because that is more what Praise & Worship tends to do... stress what we're giving to God. Which isn't bad, in and of itself, but that isn't what Mass is. I still haven't gotten up the courage to bring our music up with my pastor. I want to... it's just I'm so terrified! Plus we're in the middle of refurnishing our piano... and it's like... who am I to tell them not to, you know? But I hope you do, and that your pastor pays attention... pray for me, too, that I might be given the courage to do so as well. [quote]Wow, I go away for a while, and Cam becomes concise (let me take a look, oh concise for Cam...) He really should write a book on the liturgy.[/quote] Yeah, that's why I gave her the first one first. Did you look at that second one? Like, seriously get to the point man! I'm sorry I hijacked your thread ruso! And thank you again for the pictures! I loved looking at them!
awyers Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 Sorry for continuing the hijack but I have another quick question Those posts talked about instruments but lets say you are singing an old classic like Hear I am Lord with the organ only. Is that ok or should the music be more traditional chant type music? I feel completely ignorant! I have never been to a mass except at OLAM where the music wasnt praise and worship or something a little more classic like Hear I am Lord. I have never ever heard chant type music at any of the 20+ churches I have been to in my general area I feel so deceived lol! I dont know if I can work up the nerve to bring this up. I think that my pastor and the community are seriously liberal. The music is just the tip of the iceberg and I may need my pastor to write a letter for me when I enter Oh man zunshynn lets pray for eachother!!
TheresaMF Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) Just dropping in on the hijak . . . For those of you concerned about the modern state of music at your parishes, check out Crisis Magazine's recent article, "[url="http://www.crisismagazine.com/julaug2006/tucker.htm"]How to Start Your Own Garage Schola.[/url]" This gives helpful tips about how you can actually introduce real sacred music to your parish, not just complain to your pastor. Also helpful in that regard would be the article "[url="http://www.crisismagazine.com/may2006/tucker.htm"]An Idiot’s Guide to Square Notes[/url]" about reading Gregorian chant. Oh, and check out the author's website: [url="http://www.ceciliaschola.org/"]St. Cecelia Schola[/url]!! Edited September 6, 2006 by TheresaMF
brandelynmarie Posted September 6, 2006 Posted September 6, 2006 (edited) I am oh so checking out "An Idiot's Guide to Square Notes"!!!! Thanks! Edited September 6, 2006 by brandelynmarie
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HeavenlyCalling Posted September 7, 2006 Posted September 7, 2006 The koren sisters habits a re so cool!!! I love the blue!!!
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