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[quote name='Eutychus' post='1061190' date='Sep 12 2006, 07:32 AM']
What did our LORD say about "division" over doctrine even within the "household" as it were?

[quote]hink not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law.

36 And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household.[/quote]
[/quote]
Jesus says his presence would cause division. This happens when something so pure enters an impure environment. This doesn't mean division should be our goal. In the beginning, it was not so. The only person/entity who should take pride in division is the devil.

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[quote]Budge and Eutychus, are you members of K.K.K.?.
They are protestants, anticatholics, antiblacks[/quote]


No, {I wouldnt be allowed in the door, a bit too dark ;)}

I hate the KKK and what it stands for.

The NWO plays divide and conquer especially using different races, constantly.

But I sure wonder about these guys...

[img]http://www.ayto-aviles.es/semanasanta/imagenes/sss1_590.jpg[/img]

Was Jack Chick way out to lunch on this one?

{Just asking, because I don't know}


[quote]
Ku Klux Klan

The KKK was created by Jesuits following their failure in the Civil War, in an effort to prejudice African Americans and liberal whites against Protestantism. They are, to put it mildly, a negative PR organization.[/quote]



Ever notice how the KKK logos match logos of a certain other group?

I got this off the ADL website so I did not link to any KKK groups...

KKK logo...

[img]http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/processed_new_images/kkk.gif[/img]

Cross of Knights Templar...

[img]http://www.forensicgenealogy.info/sitebuilder/images/Cross_of_the_Knights_Templar-167x167.jpg[/img]

Knights of Malta

[img]http://vitezmedals.co.uk/MaltOSJ-r.jpg[/img]

Would a PROT-founded group call themselves[u] KNIGHTS[/u]?

{Yes plenty of duped and deceived Protestants joined}

Just to reiterate for the confused on this thread,

BLACK MADONNA has nothing to do with being of the African race...

the Black signifies the EARTH...

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Posted

so i should stop cutting my arms and yelling as i dance around the black goddess - er I mean "black mary"?

Posted

Yes you should.

Sheesh WHAT have YOU been up to;)?

Posted

[quote name='Budge' post='1061411' date='Sep 12 2006, 04:03 PM']
Was Jack Chick way out to lunch on this one?

{Just asking, because I don't know}

[quote]Ku Klux Klan

The KKK was created by Jesuits following their failure in the Civil War, in an effort to prejudice African Americans and liberal whites against Protestantism. They are, to put it mildly, a negative PR organization.[/quote][/quote]
Jack Chick is out to lunch on many things. It's best to ignore him.

From Wikipedia:
[quote]Ku Klux Klan (KKK) is the name of a number of past and present fraternal organizations in the United States that have advocated white supremacy, anti-Semitism, racism, [b]anti-Catholicism[/b], homophobia, and nativism. These organizations have often promoted the use of terrorism, violence and acts of intimidation such as cross burning to oppress African Americans and others.

The Klan's first incarnation was in 1866. Founded by veterans of the Confederate Army, its main purpose was to resist Reconstruction, and it focused as much on intimidating "carpetbaggers" and "scalawags" as on putting down the freed slaves.[/quote]
The Confederate Army was the army of the south, an area which was heavily protestant. Wikipedia quotes from a book written about the KKK in Indiana.

[quote][b]Klansmen were Protestants, of course[/b], but they cannot be described exclusively or even predominately as fundamentalists. In reality, [b]their religious affiliations mirrored the whole of white Protestant society[/b], including those who did not belong to any church.[/quote]

[quote]Ever notice how the KKK logos match logos of a certain other group?[/quote]
And? Ever notice how you can find the face of Richard Nixon in a potato chip? You see what you want to see. You use innuendo to draw a false conclusion. Historical facts tie the KKK to Protestantism directly to the KKK. No innuendo required.

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Did you know the Pope of that time wrote a PRO-Confederate Letter to Jefferson Davis?
[b]
HERE IS AN ACADEMIC LINK...so no one will try and say this is PHONY, and ANTICATHOLIC FAKE LETTER.[/b]

[url="http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fsgml%2Fmoa-idx%3Fnotisid%3DANU4547-2003&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fofre%2Fofre2003%2F&tif=00991.TIF&pagenum=975"]RIGHT FROM CORNELL UNIVERSITY[/url]
[quote]
[Translation]

Illustrious and honorable sir, greeting:

We have lately received with all kindness, as was meet, the gentlemen sent by your Excellency to present to us your letter dated on the 23d of last September. We have received certainly no small pleasure in learning both from these gentlemen and from your letter the feelings of gratification and of very warm appreciation with which you, illustrious and honorable sir, were moved when you first had knowledge written in October of the preceding year to the venerable brethren, John, archbishop of New York, and John, archbishop of New Orleans, in which we again and again urged and exhorted those venerable brethren that because of their exemplary piety and episcopal zeal they should employ their most earnest efforts, in our name also, in order that the fatal civil war which had arisen in the States should end, and that the people of America might again enjoy mutual peace and concord, and love each other with mutual charity. And it has been very gratifying to us to recognize illustrious and honorable sir, that you and your people are animated by the same desire for peace and tranquillity, which we had so earnestly inculcated in our aforesaid letters to the venerable brethren above named. Oh, that the other people also of the States and their rulers, considering seriously how cruel and how deplorable is this internecine war, would receive and embrace the counsels of peace and tranquillity. We indeed shall not cease with most fervent prayer to beseech God, the best and highest, and to implore Him to pour out the spirit of Christian love and peace upon all the people of America, and to rescue them from the great calamities with which they are afflicted. [size=4]And we also pray the same most merciful Lord that he will illumine your Excellency with the light of His divine grace and [u]unite you with ourselves[/u] in perfect charity.[/size]

[size=4]Given at Rome at St. Peters on the 3d December, 1863, in the eighteenth year of our pontificate.

PIUS P. P. IX.[/size]


Illustrious and Hon. JEFFERSON DAVIS
President of the Confederate States of America, Richmond.[/quote]

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QUOTE

Ku Klux Klan

The KKK was created by Jesuits following their failure in the Civil War, in an effort to prejudice African Americans and liberal whites against Protestantism. They are, to put it mildly, a negative PR organization.


:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :dunce: :prop: :prop: :lol_roll: :lol_roll: :lol_pound: :lol_pound:
Bravo, bravisimo, :applause: :applause: :clapping: :clapping: :bigclap: :bigclap:
Other, other , other

Posted

Glad you thought that was funny.

So what do you think that of one of your Pope's taking up for the South?

:smokey:

Posted (edited)

[quote]Jesus says his presence would cause division. This happens when something so pure enters an impure environment. This doesn't mean division should be our goal. [b][u]In the beginning, it was not so.[/u][/b] [/quote]

Oh dear biblical illiterate.... { that is so much fun to say...}

Have you NEVER even read Galatians?

[quote]Galatians 1:6 (KJV) I marvel that ye are so soon removed from him that called you into the grace of Christ unto another gospel:

7 Which is not another;[b] [u]but there be some that trouble you, and would pervert the gospel of Christ.[/u][/b][/quote]

Or the John episcopal letters?

[quote]1 John 2:18 (KJV) Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come,[u][b] even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.[/u]

19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would [no doubt] have continued with us: but [they went out], that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us[/b].[/quote]

Or Jude, one of Jesus's biological half brothers?

[quote]Jude 1:3 (KJV) Beloved, when I gave all diligence to write unto you of the common salvation, it was needful for me to write unto you, and exhort [you] that ye should earnestly contend for the faith which was once delivered unto the saints.
[u]
[b]4 For there are certain men crept in unawares,[/u] who were before of old ordained to this condemnation, ungodly men, turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ.[/b][/quote]

Or Revelation

[quote]Revelation 2:2 (KJV) I know thy works, and thy labour, and thy patience, and how thou canst not bear[b] them which are evil: and thou hast tried them which say they are apostles, and are not, and hast found them liars:
[/b]
3 And hast borne, and hast patience, and for my name's sake hast laboured, and hast not fainted.[/quote],

Methinks you are living in a fairy tale world, the apostolic ERA ITSELF, might have another 15 versese warning that RIGHT THEN AND NOW, INSIDE the church, were apostates. It was happening while the apostles are still alive.

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Posted

[quote name='Budge' post='1061534' date='Sep 12 2006, 05:48 PM']Glad you thought that was funny.

So what do you think that of one of your Pope's taking up for the South?

:smokey:[/quote]Budge, why don't you tell us, what is the sinister secret meaning that you have found in this message. Please!

Posted

[quote name='Eutychus' post='1061552' date='Sep 12 2006, 04:56 PM']
Oh dear biblical illiterate.... { that is so much fun to say...}[/quote]
I guess humility is not in your Bible. Check Beatitudes.

[quote]Have you NEVER even read Galatians?
Or the John episcopal letters?
Or Jude, one of Jesus's biological half brothers?
Or Revelation[/quote]
All examples of division and strengthen my case for its poisonous nature. These are not things we strive for. These are cautionary notes about the cancerous effects of division. It's arguments against division, not for it.

It is not surprising someone who relies on [url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prooftexting"]prooftexting[/url] misunderstands "In the beginning, it was not so." "In the beginning" means before the fall of man, not the beginning of Christian history.

Posted

[quote name='Budge' post='1061499' date='Sep 12 2006, 11:32 PM']
Did you know the Pope of that time wrote a PRO-Confederate Letter to Jefferson Davis?
[b]
HERE IS AN ACADEMIC LINK...so no one will try and say this is PHONY, and ANTICATHOLIC FAKE LETTER.[/b]

[url="http://cdl.library.cornell.edu/cgi-bin/moa/pageviewer?frames=1&cite=http%3A%2F%2Fcdl.library.cornell.edu%2Fcgi-bin%2Fmoa%2Fsgml%2Fmoa-idx%3Fnotisid%3DANU4547-2003&coll=moa&view=50&root=%2Fmoa%2Fofre%2Fofre2003%2F&tif=00991.TIF&pagenum=975"]RIGHT FROM CORNELL UNIVERSITY[/url]
[/quote]
That has this letter of evil?, ¿to Ask to God that illuminate to Jefferson Davis for put an end to a war?, To show that there is catholics in the south?. That two men unite in perfect charity?.
It entertains you to write foolish things, it congratulates of my part to whom they washed you the brain, they have done a good work, Fortunately the Protestants that know, they are not believed your "urban legends" :P:

Posted

[quote] It is not surprising someone who relies on prooftexting misunderstands "In the beginning, it was not so." "In the beginning" means before the fall of man, not the beginning of Christian history.[/quote]

Oh the biblical illiteracy continues.... { gosh, I *LOVE* being able to say that...me bad!}

So, you want to look to the GARDEN? Paradise??

Let's see, we had TWO people, and ONE went bad, then talked the OTHER ONE into going bad with her....{ sound personally familiar to anyone? }

And you want to call that UNITY of purpose?

You either have a 50% apostacy rate, OR a few minutes later, a 100% apostacy rate.

:wacko: [u]Pick one. [/u] :unsure:

Posted

[quote name='Budge' post='1061534' date='Sep 12 2006, 04:48 PM']
Glad you thought that was funny.

So what do you think that of one of your Pope's taking up for the South?

:smokey:
[/quote]

Seeing as I think both sides were reprehensible, not much. Thankfully, it's not doctrinal and there is nothing to keep popes from being foolish in their personal opinions.

Gosh darn that free will!

Posted

[quote] Seeing as I think both sides were reprehensible, not much. Thankfully, it's not doctrinal and there is nothing to keep popes from being foolish in their personal opinions.[/quote]

I know this is swept under the carpet, but many have noted that Lincoln was assasinated by a cabal of Roman Catholics, working with the Jesuits who deeply hated Lincoln and wanted revenge for an event that happened long before, when young Abe, and attorney in Illinois took on and defended Fr. Charles PT Chiniquy who was an HONEST priest, being railroaded by the corrupt heiracry, who wanted sexual infidelites, financial shenanigans and the like hidden while Chiniquey was a stalwart HONEST priest who was being sued in trumped up charges by the Catholic Church. Lincoln, despite the death threats at teh time from the Roman Catholics, took the case pro-bono, WON, when the Jesuits and Priests were CAUGHT lying and all fled town in the middle of the trial. The Jesuits swore revenge, and apparently years later, using the pretext of the South, were able to get their agents maneuvered into a position to assasinate teh president, EXACTLY as Chinequey had written to Lincoln, EVERY SINGLE year from the date of teh trial, even to the time he was in the Whitehouse warning him.

[quote]

In 1891 John G. Nicolay, Lincoln's former secretary, received a note from Benedict Guldner, a Jesuit priest in New York, asking for information about a "libellous pamphlet" printed in Germany. The pamphlet, according to Guldner, was a translation of a work "originally written in this country ... in which the author maintains that the assassination of President Lincoln was the work of Jesuits." Nicolay and John Hay, another former secretary to the President, had not mentioned the allegation in their biography of Lincoln, and Guldner wished to know if they had heard the charge and if they considered it false. [1] Nicolay consulted Hay, and then replied:

To [y]our first question whether in our studies on the life of Lincoln we came upon the charge that "the assasination of President Lincoln was the work of Jesuits", we answer that we have read such a charge in a lengthy newspaper publication.
To your second question, viz: "If you did come across it, did the accusation seem to you to be entirely groundless?", we answer Yes.
It seemed to us so entirely groundless as not to merit any attention on our part. [2]

Perhaps the decision of Nicolay and Hay to ignore the charge of a Jesuit conspiracy against Lincoln was unwise. A prompt and firm denial might have prevented further publication of the story. [3]

The originator of the conspiracy theory was Charles P.T. Chiniquy, a former Catholic priest who claimed to be a close friend and confidant of Abraham Lincoln's. According to Chiniquy, "emissaries of the Pope" were plotting to murder Lincoln for his defense of Chiniquy in an 1856 trial. Chiniquy's autobiography, Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, published in 1885, attributes remarks to the President on a variety of subjects, particularly religion. [4] Most of Chinquy's stories are so foreign to what is known about the Sixteenth President that scholars have ignored them. Nevertheless, many of the less sensational portions of Chiniquy's reminiscences have been used by serious students of Lincoln's life, and the most sensational passages have been widely quoted and disseminated by writers engaged in anti-Catholic polemics.

Charles Paschal Telesphore Chiniquy was born on July 30, 1809, in Kamouraska, Quebec. As a young man he was ordained a priest in the Roman Catholic church, and his labors to stamp out drunkenness caused him to be known throughout Quebec as "The Apostle of Temperance". [5] In 1851 he moved to Kankakee County, Illinois, to serve a colony of French-Canadians who had migrated there. Chiniquy got into difficulty with his bishop, resigned his position in the church in 1860, and with some of his former parishioners established a new church. In time Chiniquy became a Presbyterian minister and published many books and pamphlets with an anti-Catholic theme. He also lectured extensively throughout the United States, Europe and Australia on the evils of Roman Catholicism. He died in Montreal on January 16, 1899. [6]

[b]It was while he lived in Illinois in the 1850s that Chiniquy met Abraham Lincoln. According to Chiniquy's Fifty Years in the Church of Rome, he hired Lincoln to defend him against a charge of personal immorality; the charge, Chiniquy said, had been brought by his enemies in the Catholic Church. Chiniquy won the case, thereby incurring the wrath of the Jesuits. By Chiniquy's account, when the verdict came in, Lincoln said; "I know that Jesuits never forgive nor forsake. But man must not care how or where he dies, provided he dies at the post of honor and duty." [7]

Chiniquy claimed that he later met with[/b] Lincoln on three different occasions in Washington. The first interview, he said, took place at the White House "at the end of August" in 1861. Chiniquy had learned from another former priest of an assassination plot against President Lincoln, and considered it his duty to warn him. Chiniquy reported that Lincoln received him cordially and then made the following lengthy statement:
[i]
[b] Your friends, the Jesuits, have not yet killed me. But they would have surely done it, when I passed through their most devoted city, Baltimore, had I not defeated their plans, by passing incognito, a few hours before they expected me. We have the proof that the company which had been selected and organized to murder me, was led by a rabid Roman Catholic, called Byrne; it was almost entirely composed of Roman Catholics ... A few days ago, I saw Mr. [Samuel F.B.] Morse, the learned inventor of electric telegraphy; he told me that, when he was in Rome ... he found out the proofs of a formidable conspiracy against this country and all its institutions. It is evident that it is to the intrigues and emissaries of the pope, that we owe, in great part, the horrible civil war which is threatening to cover the country with blood and ruins.[/b] [/i][8][/quote]

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[quote name='Eutychus' post='1061840' date='Sep 13 2006, 03:27 AM']
I know this is swept under the carpet, but many have noted that Lincoln was assasinated by a cabal of Roman Catholics, working with the Jesuits who deeply hated Lincoln and wanted revenge for an event that happened long before, when young Abe, and attorney in Illinois took on and defended Fr. Charles PT Chiniquy who was an HONEST priest, being railroaded by the corrupt heiracry, who wanted sexual infidelites, financial shenanigans and the like hidden while Chiniquey was a stalwart HONEST priest who was being sued in trumped up charges by the Catholic Church. Lincoln, despite the death threats at teh time from the Roman Catholics, took the case pro-bono, WON, when the Jesuits and Priests were CAUGHT lying and all fled town in the middle of the trial. The Jesuits swore revenge, and apparently years later, using the pretext of the South, were able to get their agents maneuvered into a position to assasinate teh president, EXACTLY as Chinequey had written to Lincoln, EVERY SINGLE year from the date of teh trial, even to the time he was in the Whitehouse warning him.
[/quote]
:rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :rolling: :lol_roll: :lol_roll: :lol_roll: :lol_roll: :lol_pound: :lol_pound: :lol_pound: :lol_pound:


:bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap: :bigclap:
more, more, more

Posted

I take it then, that you just haven't read the history books.

Typical.

If it isn't in the Sunday Diocesan Bulletin, the pew classes are unaware of it.

Read the book FIRST, then you will have standing to take off your shirt, pretend you are black, braid your hair in dreadnaughts, and mock Jesus.

Posted (edited)

[quote name='Budge' post='1061411' date='Sep 12 2006, 03:03 PM']
No, {I wouldnt be allowed in the door, a bit too dark ;)}

I hate the KKK and what it stands for.

The NWO plays divide and conquer especially using different races, constantly.

But I sure wonder about these guys...

[img]http://www.ayto-aviles.es/semanasanta/imagenes/sss1_590.jpg[/img]

Was Jack Chick way out to lunch on this one?

{Just asking, because I don't know}
Ever notice how the KKK logos match logos of a certain other group?

I got this off the ADL website so I did not link to any KKK groups...

KKK logo...

[img]http://www.adl.org/hate_symbols/processed_new_images/kkk.gif[/img]

Cross of Knights Templar...

[img]http://www.forensicgenealogy.info/sitebuilder/images/Cross_of_the_Knights_Templar-167x167.jpg[/img]

Knights of Malta

[img]http://vitezmedals.co.uk/MaltOSJ-r.jpg[/img]

Would a PROT-founded group call themselves[u] KNIGHTS[/u]?

{Yes plenty of duped and deceived Protestants joined}
[/quote]
:biglol: :biglol: :biglol: :lol_pound: :lol_pound: :lol_roll: :rofl:

Yeah, when in doubt, you can always turn to the inestimable Jack Chick for reliable and sound historical information! (Don't listen to what them highfalootin' history books might tell you - old Jack always knows the [i]real[/i] story of what happened!)

I love the way he pulls "facts" out of thin air - "The KKK was created by Jesuits following their failure in the Civil War . . ." No evidence given whatsoever to back up this astounding claim! (But according to Mr. Chick, with his infinite store of hidden knowledge, the Vatican founded the Communist and Nazi Parties also - that's right, both parties - and made them fight each other just for kicks.)
Well, it's a good thing we whupped them dirty, no-good Jesuits in the War Between the States! (Which side did they fight with anyway?)

(I had always personally been under the impression that the KKK was really secretly created by giant cockroaches from the planet Gyron as part of an elaborate plot to conquer the Earth by getting all the Earthlings to kill one another.)

So the Catholics founded a vehemently anti-Catholic group just to make anti-Catholics look bad! Brilliant stategy!

And, wait, we have proof that the KKK is Roamin' Cath-lick, 'cause they have a red-and-white coss logo! Can't refute that proof there!
I guess we'd better watch out for the Red Cross, too, then! I'll bet every drop collected in their "blood drives" is used for sinister satanic Jesuit vampire blood rites! :shock:

[quote]Just to reiterate for the confused on this thread,

BLACK MADONNA has nothing to do with being of the African race...

the Black signifies the EARTH...[/quote]
Another "fact" pulled out of thin air. Actually, the "black madonnas" are dark because of age and accumulated soot.

But remember everything black signifies the earth (and is therefore eeevillll!)
(But I thought Mary was really that demonic "Queen of [b]Heaven[/b]," not a fertility earth goddess.) And Mary's official color is [b]blue[/b].
Budge and Euty have already showed us how anything red or white or purple or gold or black (and now we know blue) is evil, so avoid anything with those colors! (Are there any [i]safe[/i] colors out there? :idontknow: )

[quote name='Eutychus' post='1061840' date='Sep 12 2006, 07:27 PM']
I know this is swept under the carpet, but many have noted that Lincoln was assasinated by a cabal of Roman Catholics, working with the Jesuits who deeply hated Lincoln and wanted revenge for an event that happened long before, when young Abe, and attorney in Illinois took on and defended Fr. Charles PT Chiniquy who was an HONEST priest, being railroaded by the corrupt heiracry, who wanted sexual infidelites, financial shenanigans and the like hidden while Chiniquey was a stalwart HONEST priest who was being sued in trumped up charges by the Catholic Church. Lincoln, despite the death threats at teh time from the Roman Catholics, took the case pro-bono, WON, when the Jesuits and Priests were CAUGHT lying and all fled town in the middle of the trial. The Jesuits swore revenge, and apparently years later, using the pretext of the South, were able to get their agents maneuvered into a position to assasinate teh president, EXACTLY as Chinequey had written to Lincoln, EVERY SINGLE year from the date of teh trial, even to the time he was in the Whitehouse warning him.
[/quote]
A silly anti-Catholic conspiracy theory fairy-tale.

(And I had always thought the invisible interdimensional Masonic-Jewish lizard-men were responsible for the deaths of both Lincoln AND JFK!)

Were the Jesuits also behind 9-11? :rolleyes:

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[quote name='Eutychus' post='1061862' date='Sep 12 2006, 07:42 PM']
I take it then, that you just haven't read the history books.

Typical.

If it isn't in the Sunday Diocesan Bulletin, the pew classes are unaware of it.

Read the book FIRST, then you will have standing to take off your shirt, pretend you are black, braid your hair in dreadnaughts, and mock Jesus.
[/quote]
So now to mock Eutychus' nonsensical anti-Catholic tirades is to mock Jesus? :detective:

I've read plenty of real history books (by Catholic, protestant, and secular authors) and no serious historians take Chiniquy's anti-Catholic propaganda seriously. (Unless we are to consider his most devoted follower, Jack Chick, a serious historian.)

[b][url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Chiniquy"]Wikipedia bio of Charles Chiniquy[/url][/b]

[b][url="http://www.geocities.com/chiniquy/"]Site giving the facts on Charles Chiniquy[/url][/b]

Posted

[quote name='Eutychus' post='1061840' date='Sep 12 2006, 09:27 PM']
I know this is swept under the carpet, but many have noted that Lincoln was assasinated by a cabal of Roman Catholics, working with the Jesuits who deeply hated Lincoln and wanted revenge for an event that happened long before, when young Abe, and attorney in Illinois took on and defended Fr. Charles PT Chiniquy who was an HONEST priest, being railroaded by the corrupt heiracry, who wanted sexual infidelites, financial shenanigans and the like hidden while Chiniquey was a stalwart HONEST priest who was being sued in trumped up charges by the Catholic Church. Lincoln, despite the death threats at teh time from the Roman Catholics, took the case pro-bono, WON, when the Jesuits and Priests were CAUGHT lying and all fled town in the middle of the trial. The Jesuits swore revenge, and apparently years later, using the pretext of the South, were able to get their agents maneuvered into a position to assasinate teh president, EXACTLY as Chinequey had written to Lincoln, EVERY SINGLE year from the date of teh trial, even to the time he was in the Whitehouse warning him.[/quote]All I can say is, someone has a vivid imagination.

Considering that John Wilkes Booth (an Episcopal) was a member of the anti-Catholic Know-Nothings Party, your story doesn't have a whole lot of traction. You might as well blame the Episcopal Church for Booth's misdeeds. Or maybe you should blame the Quakers, since that's who gave him his education. Or maybe we should blame the Baptists, since another conspirator, Lewis Powell, was the son of a Baptist minister.

Or, maybe we should just believe every half-baked anti-Catholic tale that is presented to us...

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