What Faith Are You?

[mariahLVzJP2]

[quote name='Groo the Wanderer' post='1062673' date='Sep 14 2006, 01:49 PM']
Bah! Seen many AG/non-dom churches. Revolving door. They attract a lot, which is a good thing, but it is more of a Christianity-lite (Joel Osteen). Long term AGs seem to be the exception. A lot tend to church-hop every 2-3 years and a LOT more leave for denominations with deeper understandings of the Truth. GASP - some even become Catholic (know 5 of the latter myself).

My wife goes to an AG church. In the last 10 years, it has shrunk from 500 to 150 peeps and there are about 10 folks there that were there when I first met her.

Where's the stats on peeps leaving yer denomination? You are very fond of pointing out how many peeps-that-call-themselves-Catholic-but-never-believed-in-the-Real-Presence leave the faith....how 'bout yers? *genuinely curious*

BTW - fastest growing does not impress me, for one. Many sects rise and fall...but how many stand the test of time? Please list for me the number of Christian denominations, churches, sects, cults, etc that are older than 600 years....oi know how many, but can you admit it?

While we are on that, can you list how many were started by Christ himself? (same list BTW). Or even...how many even CLAIM to have been started by Christ himself? (once again, same list)
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it'd be interesting to hear a Protestant response to this

[Budge]

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umm because there's this small little thing that you might've heard of... It's called Scripture. Ring a bell? Yeah, that's why we believe it. wink.gif. www.crownofmartyrs.com/forums [/quote]

Not if you follow an empty CHAIR or any chair of any mere man....

[Eutychus]

[quote] Why bother with popes? Because it is an office instituted by God to lead His people until Christ comes again. Without them we would be in anarchy like the Protestant faiths[/quote]

May I point out, that as a 'Sede' you ARE in anarchy right now, JUST LIKE the Protestants.

The only difference is we have gotten to the point where we know that there IS ONE HEAD of the spiritual church, Jesus, and pretty boys in palaces haven't done much but screw things up, over and over.

All men will go bad, given enough rope, and popeonaropeadope, as history has proven, shows that the quote attributed to "Lord Acton" that "Power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely." is totally true.

{ most don't know that quote actually referrs to Pius the Proud declaring himself INFALLIBEL at the railroad he convened and thuggeried his way to his demand to be elevated to demi-god statues. { research how many bodies were pulled out of the lake during this confab, that might give you a hint at just what was going on then...}

[goldenchild17]

[quote name='Budge' post='1063184' date='Sep 14 2006, 11:52 PM']
Not if you follow an empty CHAIR or any chair of any mere man....
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Not following you... Anyways either set up a thread here in debate table for just you and me or we can do it through email if you don't want it to be public or whatever, doesn't matter to me. But let's not hijack this thread any further.

[quote name='Eutychus' post='1063196' date='Sep 15 2006, 12:02 AM']
May I point out, that as a 'Sede' you ARE in anarchy right now, JUST LIKE the Protestants.
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mmmkay. The only thing we have in common is that we both "protest" the same Church. That's nothing surprising as I protest yours and you protest mine and just about everybody protests everybody else's. No, the only groups that are in a bit more of a predicament are groups such as SSPX who accept the Novus Ordo Church but who are not in communion with it. They would be closer to defining anarchy. I would be in anarchy if I protested my government. I would not be in anarchy if I protested the government of another country/nation. I see this situation as the same thing. I would be in anarchy if I protested the leadership of the faith I belonged to. I am not in anarchy if I protest the leadership of another faith. I am not in the Novus Ordo faith. I am not in anarchy because I protest their leadership. Same as how I am not in anarchy although I protest the Lutheran leadership or Mormon leadership or Muslim leadership. If I was protesting the leadership of my own faith then I would be in anarchy. However that isn't the case.

With that said, it's time to stop hijacking this thread.

Edited September 15, 2006 by goldenchild17

[goldenchild17]

So... Do you want to start a thread or not?