Ryan Posted January 11, 2004 Author Posted January 11, 2004 Most wars have been started because of religion. People have been and still are being killed because of religion (Your church being # 1 at killing other people, i may add). September 11th was because of religion. And now tell me your God wanted this. Both sides claim God at their side. Come on, you can't seriously believe some guy up there is stupid enough to do this.
Ellenita Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 Most religious wars are about politics, land and money and not about faith or belief in God. September 11th was about hate, not religion.
Ellenita Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 Ryan, I responded to this in your 'what I meant' thread! Do you want to move the debate over to this thread now?
Mateo el Feo Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 In that case, atheism must be the most dangerous religion of them all. We endured half a century waiting for the Communists to destroy the world with their nuclear weapons. Luckily they mostly just destroyed their own economies. With their "enlightened" revolutions (Russia, China, Mexico, etc), non-atheists were killed by atheists in the millions... You're starting your thread with a false premise or two. Just a bit of advice: study history. It'll surpise someone with your prejudices. God bless you, Mateo
foundsheep Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 I merged these topics. New one was continuation of other.
mulls Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 Most wars have been started because of religion. People have been and still are being killed because of religion (Your church being # 1 at killing other people, i may add). September 11th was because of religion. And now tell me your God wanted this. Both sides claim God at their side. Come on, you can't seriously believe some guy up there is stupid enough to do this. (i said this in the other thread but i'll repeat it) you're right, there is no guy up there stupid enough to do this. the guy up there is wondering how we (people) could be stupid enough to do this.
Aloysius Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 you know why the idea that Religion is the easy way of escaping some reality? here's why (at least for Catholocism) Life with Catholocism is hard, while death is easier but still hard as we don't know whether we'll be condemned for eternity, have to go through the pains of purification for a very long time, or make it to heaven. actually, come to think about it, death isn't that much easier. Life with Athiesm is easy, you can do whatever the heck you want. Death with Athiesm can be hard since you think you're just gonna no longer exist, but it's not nearly as hard as death with Catholocism, in that you believe you may not just cease to exist but be eternally punished. Catholocism, however, has something very important that you confuse with making it seem easy. HOPE. We hope in our eternal salvation, and that's what scares you. you're sure of your eventual nothingness while we hope in eternal happiness. we are not assured, however, we work out our salvation in fear and trembling. the reason it appears easier is that we have hope in Christ. :rolling:
Aloysius Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 u know what, Ryan, how is our Church #1 in killing ppl, cuz it definitely isn't. the secular athiestic religion has killed more, abortion, communism, holocaust. :(
Bruce S Posted January 11, 2004 Posted January 11, 2004 With their "enlightened" revolutions (Russia, China, Mexico, etc), non-atheists were killed by atheists in the millions... May I add, the French Revolution, and the Reign of Terror that it launched?
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