homeschoolmom Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 I was thinking of Zechariah being struck dumb...
kenrockthefirst Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1079174' date='Sep 29 2006, 12:11 PM'] Translation ANTICATHOLIC--->BIBLE BELIEVING CHRISTIAN.[/quote] Whose bible? Which translation? Literal? So the sun *really* stopped in the sky? You've been slam-dunked on this point many times before. "Bible-believing Christian" is a handy shorthand for a particular flavor of evangelical Christian but it's hardly an irrefutable apologetic.
thessalonian Posted September 29, 2006 Author Posted September 29, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Budge' post='1079194' date='Sep 29 2006, 01:24 PM'] Oh Really? "Call no {religious man} father..."[/quote] Hadn't notices that it says "religious man" in the Bible. Isn't there something in proverbs about not adding to the words Budge. Guess you forgot about that. So do you think Paul sinned when he called hiself a father to the Corinthians? [quote]"do not make...." "do not bow down to...."[/quote] Hmmmm. Let's see. AFTER this command the Jews made cheribum and a bronze serpant. The Ark of the Covenant is even a graven image. Perhaps even that loaf of wonder bread you guys use at the Lord's Supper is a graven image. It's clear that the image is not to be your god but throw out context. That allows Budge to be on the attack. Budge my bet is you would have been aghast at the Jews bowing before the Ark of the Covenant in Josh 7. But God granted them victory the next day. Edited September 29, 2006 by thessalonian
cmotherofpirl Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 But we read and hear the bible, and pray the psalms and are still Catholic, so your equation is null.
thessalonian Posted September 29, 2006 Author Posted September 29, 2006 (edited) Over 100 views of this thread already and not one testimony for Budge's great spirit guided evangelism on phatmass. I thought by now there would be one. Common folks. Okay let's ease up a bit. Someone post that budge has softened them up to being a Born Again Christian like her. Anyone. Edited September 29, 2006 by thessalonian
Mary-Kathryn Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1079144' date='Sep 29 2006, 01:50 PM'] I am like Zachariah and Noah.... [/quote] But I am in love with Jesus Christ Peace, my sister
Laudate_Dominum Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1079144' date='Sep 29 2006, 11:50 AM'] I am like Zachariah and Noah.... [/quote]
avemaria40 Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1079104' date='Sep 29 2006, 01:02 PM'] I know I am posting to rocky soil here mostly. for any seeds that do sprout, it may 10 years in the happening. Speaking of evangelization efforts, when is the last time you passed out a tract or preached you must be born again in Jesus Christ? [/quote] I don't need to do that. I try to live my faith through both words and deeds and my friends have expressed an interest in wanting to learn MORE about Jesus. A friend even told me that my actions helped her have a better connection with Jesus. People respond to love and the grace of God, not someone yelling at them.
PadrePioOfPietrelcino Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1079194' date='Sep 29 2006, 01:24 PM'] Oh Really? "Call no {religious man} father..." "do not make...." "do not bow down to...." The Boomerang Bible everything comes back different. [/quote] budge the "religious man" is your own addition to the text. Call no man Father, OR Rabbi, OR Teacher. The meaning of this verse is to not lift people's own teaching above those of God, and his inspired message. Do not make graven images of ANYTHING on heaven or on Earth. Pictures, Television, Billboards, monuments, paintings, and statues are ALL bad according to your interpretaion, but I see you posting pictures on here trying to show how evil the Church is, which is you can't play both sides. Do not bow down to IT (IT meaning don't bow down to the STATUE, when I bow down it is ALWAYS in worship of God.) Do not bown down and serve THEM (Them meaning the statues, I do not serve a statue I serve God, I worship God, if a statue reminds me of God then the statue is not the problem.) Yes when you read the bible you do make everything different. Budge, your Catholic bible must be special, because apparently your bible has two sets of rules the one's budge has o follow, and the ones for Anti-Catholics
Budge Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 [quote] Do not make graven images of ANYTHING on heaven or on Earth. Pictures, Television, Billboards, monuments, paintings, and statues are ALL bad according to your interpretaion, but I see you posting pictures on here trying to show how evil the Church is, which is you can't play both sides.[/quote] That has to do with worship as well.
thessalonian Posted September 29, 2006 Author Posted September 29, 2006 Poor budge. Someone, please tell our dear separated sister that she has made one of you at least think instantaneously about fellowshipping with her as a Protestant. Anyone? Anyone?
N/A Gone Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 She makes me pray alil more about the intentions behind the fundi movement. "Born Fundamentalist, Born again Catholic" great book...I will buy you a copy ma'am, if u want. Or mail you mine.
Budge Posted September 29, 2006 Posted September 29, 2006 Ive already read Karl Keatings Catholicism Vs. Fundamentalism, I doubt a book of Catholic converts dicussing how the smells and bells, and "history" led them in is going to change my mind....
Socrates Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Budge' post='1079194' date='Sep 29 2006, 12:24 PM'] Oh Really? "Call no {religious man} father..." "do not make...." "do not bow down to...." The Boomerang Bible everything comes back different. [/quote] Hasn't Budge elsewhere spoken against [b]adding to[/b] and [b]taking away from[/b] the words of the Bible? [quote name='Budge' post='1079394' date='Sep 29 2006, 02:55 PM'] That has to do with worship as well. [/quote] The two gold cherubs [b]God commanded[/b] to made on the mercy seat of the Ark of the Covenant (Exodus 25:18-21) most certainly had to do with worship! As did the cherubs in the Temple built by Solomon (1 Kings 6:23-30) and the lions and bulls and cherubs decorating the wheeled stands for the bronze basins of the Temple (1 Kings 7:27-37). Or were these passages excised from the Budge Version of the Bible? Edited September 30, 2006 by Socrates
nawtyeravgjoe Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 Budge, you posting here in phatmass is sorta like if the people over at [url="http://www.godisimaginary.com"]www.Godisimaginary.com [/url] came to your forums and started posting their videos. do you see how ignorant they seem? that's sorta like how you are to us. iono, that's all i wanted to say.
Winchester Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1079666' date='Sep 29 2006, 07:29 PM'] Ive already read Karl Keatings Catholicism Vs. Fundamentalism, I doubt a book of Catholic converts dicussing how the smells and bells, and "history" led them in is going to change my mind.... [/quote] Don't forget the calisthenics!
cmotherofpirl Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1079666' date='Sep 29 2006, 08:29 PM'] Ive already read Karl Keatings Catholicism Vs. Fundamentalism, I doubt a book of Catholic converts dicussing how the smells and bells, and "history" led them in is going to change my mind.... [/quote] God forbid Budge that you read any history, you would never want to pollute your minds with actual facts.... just keep worshipping your book and you will be fine.
tojo Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 [quote name='PadrePioOfPietrelcino' post='1079186' date='Sep 29 2006, 01:18 PM'] I do believe the believe the Bible and as the Bible says.. Man does not live on bread alone but by [size=5] every word [/size] that come from the mouth of God. [/quote] [quote name='Budge' post='1079194' date='Sep 29 2006, 01:24 PM'] Oh Really? "Call no {religious man} father..." "do not make...." "do not bow down to...." The Boomerang Bible everything comes back different. [/quote] You see Budge, that's the thing. We believe in EVERY WORD Of the Bible, not just the ones we pull out of context for our own purposes. See the difference?
Veritas Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 + Hmm... At our little parish we have several-hundred thousand visitors a year. And at the entrances we have provided nice little "tracts" called "God's Love for You" from Catholic Answers. We also provide nice little "Confession Guides" from the Knights of Columbus outlining the 10 Commandments. Then we provide other brochures like "Top Ten Reasons to Come Back to the Faith" and "The Rite of Christian Initiation for Adults" from Our Sunday Visitor. We go through over 30,000 of these a year and spend thousands of dollars to provide them... and, oh yes, we're Catholic. If someone has never heard specifically, who Jesus is, what he did, that he saves, and what he provides --they need to hear it literally and clearly --on that we TOTALLY agree. However, along with that there is love in action. The two cannot and mustnot be separated in our efforts to save souls in/for/by/with Christ.
Veritas Posted September 30, 2006 Posted September 30, 2006 (edited) + Oh, and I sell evangelization media (cds and brochures) for a living (in addition to all the volunteer work) --and I'm a Catholic! Lucky me, truly! Christ wants you back in the Church Budge! The Church He created! Edited September 30, 2006 by Veritas
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