Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Cam42' post='1092172' date='Oct 15 2006, 04:57 PM'] Raphael is right....nice post....you support me and I'll support you. When are you coming through Des Moines? [/quote] Maybe on my way to Omaha for Christmas break.
Cam42 Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1092175' date='Oct 15 2006, 02:59 PM'] Maybe on my way to Omaha for Christmas break. [/quote] Right on....let me know and I will try to get hot stuff to be in Des Moines at the same time and we'll go to Hooters together......Jennie too.... It will be fun.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Cam42' post='1092189' date='Oct 15 2006, 05:14 PM'] Right on....let me know and I will try to get hot stuff to be in Des Moines at the same time and we'll go to Hooters together......Jennie too.... It will be fun. [/quote] Jen will only be with me when I come for Spring break. ...and I won't set foot in a Hooters...
MilesChristi Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 "Though bodies develop and unfold their component parts with the passing of the years, they always remain what they were. There is a great difference between the flower of childhood and the maturity of age, but those who become old are the very same people who were once young. Though the condition and appearance of one and the same individual may change, it is one and the same nature, one and the same person. The tiny members of unweaned children and the grown members of young men are still the same members. Men have the same number of limbs as children. Whatever develops at a later age was already present in seminal form; there is nothing new in old age that was not already latent in childhood." ---St. Vincent of Lerins (c.450AD)
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='MilesChristi' post='1092218' date='Oct 15 2006, 06:01 PM'] "Though bodies develop and unfold their component parts with the passing of the years, they always remain what they were. There is a great difference between the flower of childhood and the maturity of age, but those who become old are the very same people who were once young. Though the condition and appearance of one and the same individual may change, it is one and the same nature, one and the same person. The tiny members of unweaned children and the grown members of young men are still the same members. Men have the same number of limbs as children. Whatever develops at a later age was already present in seminal form; there is nothing new in old age that was not already latent in childhood." ---St. Vincent of Lerins (c.450AD) [/quote] A very good and often unnoticed saint.
Guest T-Bone Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092162' date='Oct 15 2006, 01:51 PM'] well if we are discussing where Jesus dwelled... I think the time on earth in the Incarnation as fully God and man...definitely was more important then the time he was in Mary's womb. [b]What do we know of the time in Mary's womb?[/b] I dont remember my time in my mothers womb. All of us just kind of sit there and grow in the embyonic fluid..... [/quote] What do we know of His childhood. Aside from one solitary passage in the Bible that was more about his young-adult hood, than his childhood, absolutly nothing, nada, nil, zilch. What's your point?
Cam42 Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1092204' date='Oct 15 2006, 03:44 PM'] Jen will only be with me when I come for Spring break. ...and I won't set foot in a Hooters... [/quote] Oh, sorry to hear that.... Why won't you go to Hooters? We go for the wings..... I suppose we can go to BW3s, but the wings are not nearly as fun or good...
homeschoolmom Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='jswranch' post='1092015' date='Oct 15 2006, 06:19 AM'] : Ohh! So then veneration of Mary is just like worshiping God before Ark of the New Covenant??? (atleast someone would have patted me on the back for finding pics that match each other) [/quote] Where's the pat on the back smiley? Nice job. [quote name='Akalyte' post='1092019' date='Oct 15 2006, 08:12 AM'] Also, how hard is it to see that Mary is the Ark of the new covenant? The Ark of the old covenant held the word. The What exactly held the word in the new covenant? Its obvious. Mary is the Ark of the New Covenant. Nice pic comparison.. [/quote] And... it contained the Manna-- the Bread of Life... And Aaron's staff. [quote name='Cam42' post='1092189' date='Oct 15 2006, 04:14 PM'] Right on....let me know and I will try to get hot stuff to be in Des Moines at the same time and we'll go to Hooters together......Jennie too.... It will be fun. [/quote] Oh, yeah... loads of fun. Jennie would love it. [quote name='Cam42' post='1092386' date='Oct 15 2006, 07:10 PM'] Oh, sorry to hear that.... Why won't you go to Hooters? We go for the wings..... I suppose we can go to BW3s, but the wings are not nearly as fun or good... [/quote] Oh, they're way better than Hooters'.
Cam42 Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='homeschoolmom' post='1092435' date='Oct 15 2006, 07:20 PM'] Oh, they're way better than Hooters'. [/quote] Anathema sit!!!!!
jswranch Posted October 16, 2006 Author Posted October 16, 2006 WORD of God = Written word, Living priesthood of Jesus, and teaching arm of his church Items in Ark= Written commandments, Manna, and ruling staff of Aaron
Socrates Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='Cam42' post='1092386' date='Oct 15 2006, 06:10 PM'] Oh, sorry to hear that.... Why won't you go to Hooters? We go for the wings..... I suppose we can go to BW3s, but the wings are not nearly as fun or good... [/quote] What about the breasts and thighs? [quote name='Budge' post='1092162' date='Oct 15 2006, 02:51 PM'] well if we are discussing where Jesus dwelled... [b]I think the time on earth in the Incarnation as fully God and man...definitely was more important then the time he was in Mary's womb.[/b] What do we know of the time in Mary's womb? I dont remember my time in my mothers womb. All of us just kind of sit there and grow in the embyonic fluid..... [/quote] Are you saying He was not fully God and man when He was in Mary's womb???
jswranch Posted October 16, 2006 Author Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092124' date='Oct 15 2006, 02:07 PM'] No Jew ever worshipped the ark itself but what was in it. If any Jew worshipped the box or the golden cherubs on it, they would have been idolatrous. they worshipped the precense of God. Exd 40:34 ¶ Then a cloud covered the tent of the congregation, [u]and the glory of the LORD filled the tabernacle.[/u] I don't think you want to use this one to exucse the bowing before statues lest you believe those statues have an actual precense in them, [/quote] Budge, Please name one Catholic on Phatmass who believes statues have an actual presence in them. You cannot do it. The Catholic Church teaches and believes that doing so is idolatry, which is a sin and can send one to hell.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='Cam42' post='1092386' date='Oct 15 2006, 08:10 PM'] Oh, sorry to hear that.... Why won't you go to Hooters? We go for the wings..... I suppose we can go to BW3s, but the wings are not nearly as fun or good... [/quote] I don't care for the uniforms.
Jaime Posted October 16, 2006 Posted October 16, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1092204' date='Oct 15 2006, 04:44 PM'] Jen will only be with me when I come for Spring break. ...and I won't set foot in a Hooters... [/quote] More wings for me!!
Winchester Posted October 26, 2006 Posted October 26, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092162' date='Oct 15 2006, 03:51 PM'] well if we are discussing where Jesus dwelled... I think the time on earth in the Incarnation as fully God and man...definitely was more important then the time he was in Mary's womb. What do we know of the time in Mary's womb? I dont remember my time in my mothers womb. All of us just kind of sit there and grow in the embyonic fluid..... [/quote] Wow, can you say sacrilege? It's never quite enough to disagree with our relationship with Mary. We must also denigrate her role. Sadly, that has extended to an indispensible part of the incarnation. Excellent illustration of insane opposition. Textbook.
thessalonian Posted October 26, 2006 Posted October 26, 2006 In Josh 7 the elders and Joshua prostrate themselves before the Ark of the Covenant and pray THROUGH it to God. We pray through Mary to Jesus. Once one sees the link between the Ark and Mary, Catholic theology and practice on Mary fall out all over from the Bible. It's as clear as a sky blue day. The Ark preceeded them in to battle. It brought them to the river Jordan to cross in to the promised land. A forshadowing of baptism. Interestingly enough where they crossed the Jordan is said to be where Jesus was baptized. The ark was so pure that no man, not even the priests could touch it or they would fall dead. Perhaps I will say more later.
kenrockthefirst Posted October 26, 2006 Posted October 26, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1092148' date='Oct 15 2006, 02:40 PM'] What about the Incarnation? Dwelled in Mary? 9 months compared to 33 years? [/quote] BTW, isn't Jesus *still* in human form, albeit a glorified version? So that's, what, 2000+ years. Anyway, your point is...?
thessalonian Posted October 26, 2006 Posted October 26, 2006 Christ physically lived within Mary for 9 months. But that was not the limit of the time Christ was in her in the same way that Paul could say in Galations "Yet not I who live, but CHRIST LIVES IN ME". Christ was always living in Mary.
Norseman82 Posted October 27, 2006 Posted October 27, 2006 (edited) The Ark of the Covenant carried the word of God - the Ten Commandments Mary carried the Word of God - Jesus Christ Also, I seem to remember a part of the OT where somebody was struck dead for touching the Ark when he was trying to steady it and keep it from falling. Edited October 27, 2006 by Norseman82
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