Eutychus Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) I just got a report from BARNA, the premier religious polling firm that was most disturbing. There are three questions I want to pose here: [b] [color="#990000"]ONE - "Is satan a real entity?"[/color] [color="#000099"] TWO - "Was Christ sinless?"[/color] [color="#663366"]THREE - "Is the bible totally accurate?"[/color][/b] I will post WHY after some answers are given. [mod]The rules about changing text sizes have been made known. Please abide by them as etiquette demands. -Raphael[/mod] Edited October 20, 2006 by Raphael
Eutychus Posted October 19, 2006 Author Posted October 19, 2006 Did I confuse you with those three questions?
Mateo el Feo Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' post='1095673' date='Oct 19 2006, 10:21 AM'] Did I confuse you with those three questions? [/quote]By confuse, do you mean, patronize?
homeschoolmom Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Do you ever think that maybe we are tired of your patronizing attitude and don't want to converse with you anymore? That doesn't mean you can assume to know what we are thinking... Though I bet you can guess what I think of you.
homeschoolmom Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Let's say you challenge my ability to be charitable. [quote name='Eutychus' post='1095681' date='Oct 19 2006, 09:30 AM'] [/quote] Did you say something?
Eutychus Posted October 19, 2006 Author Posted October 19, 2006 Sorry those THREE QUESTIONS are of such divisive nature as to cause you to worry about your ability to remain charitable. I rather thought they were quite direct, simple, and pertinate to a forum that bills itself as INTERRELIGIOUS dialogue. So, what EXACTLY about these three questions causes you such reaction that you are wary of answering them?
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' post='1095665' date='Oct 19 2006, 10:14 AM'] I just got a report from BARNA, the premier religious polling firm that was most disturbing. There are three questions I want to pose here: [size=4][b] [color="#990000"]ONE - "Is satan a real entity?"[/color] [color="#000099"] TWO - "Was Christ sinless?"[/color] [color="#663366"]THREE - "Is the bible totally accurate?"[/color][/b][/size] I will post WHY after some answers are given. [/quote] 1. Yes. This is Catholic dogma. 2. Yes. This is Catholic dogma. 3. Yes, insofar as it is inerrant in proclaiming the Truth which God wishes to be communicated to men.
homeschoolmom Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' post='1095684' date='Oct 19 2006, 09:32 AM'] Sorry those THREE QUESTIONS are of such divisive nature as to cause you to worry about your ability to remain charitable. I rather thought they were quite direct, simple, and pertinate to a forum that bills itself as INTERRELIGIOUS dialogue. So, what EXACTLY about these three questions causes you such reaction that you are wary of answering them? [/quote] It's not the questions, it's the questioner.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' post='1095684' date='Oct 19 2006, 10:32 AM'] Sorry those THREE QUESTIONS are of such divisive nature as to cause you to worry about your ability to remain charitable. I rather thought they were quite direct, simple, and pertinate to a forum that bills itself as INTERRELIGIOUS dialogue. So, what EXACTLY about these three questions causes you such reaction that you are wary of answering them? [/quote] You're doing it again. You're doing exactly what HSmom takes offense at. The capitalization, the color coding, the font increases...it all comes across very rudely and condescendingly. How about asking us what we believe in a simple, straightforward manner without trying to commit overkill on the "dumbing down" of your questions? How about treating us as human persons who have rights to believe what we believe? How about not constantly coming across in a tone that implies that you don't really want to listen to us (and thus don't truly care about our well-being), but just want to show us how wrong we allegedly are?
cmotherofpirl Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 So you are gonna quote the Barna report saying 68% of catholics don't believe in the devil? Make sure you quote the part about 45% of evangelicals who don't either.
Eutychus Posted October 19, 2006 Author Posted October 19, 2006 [quote]You're doing it again. You're doing exactly what HSmom takes offense at. The capitalization, the color coding, the font increases...it all comes across very rudely and condescendingly. [/quote] The FORMATTING POLICE?! Please don't turn me into them, they are really bad people, and have no compulsions about making errant miscreats writing on blackboards all day long. [img]http://www.glosas.net/glosas/imagenes/bartglosas.gif[/img]
cmotherofpirl Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' post='1095716' date='Oct 19 2006, 11:31 AM'] The FORMATTING POLICE?! Please don't turn me into them, they are really bad people, and have no compulsions about making errant miscreats writing on blackboards all day long. [img]http://www.glosas.net/glosas/imagenes/bartglosas.gif[/img] [/quote] and your rudeness continues......
homeschoolmom Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 With the written word, emotion and demeanor are communicated not only with words and smileys, but also with formating.
Budge Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 Seems like pretty direct thread. My answer to the questions are... YES TO ALL THREE. Any Evangelical who rejects any of those is not a true evangelical and more fits an ecumenical liberal neo-evangelist. Sadly liberalism, modernism and Catholic ecumenicalism have snuck their way even into some Baptist churches.
Mateo el Feo Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Eutychus' post='1095684' date='Oct 19 2006, 10:32 AM']I rather thought they were quite direct, simple, and pertinate to a forum that bills itself as INTERRELIGIOUS dialogue. So, what EXACTLY about these three questions causes you such reaction that you are wary of answering them?[/quote]Frankly, your initial post is quite clear: your goal isn't to learn by questioning; but to play the role of socratic teacher (i.e. "I will post WHY after some answers are given"). While dialogue is open to all, I think it's hard for anyone to play socratic student to someone who has shown so much disregard for basic Christian charity and civility. I'd love to see you turn a new leaf, though. As an ex-Catholic who thinks he knows so much more than Catholics (I'll omit the specific name-calling that you have used against Catholics), you should at least know what faithful Catholics believe about these questions. On the other hand, if you're looking for a great number of cafeteria Catholics to answer "no" to your questions, I think you might have come to the wrong place. Side comment: Skimming through the website, I find it interesting that an evangelical Christian ([url="http://www.barna.org/FlexPage.aspx?Page=Topic&TopicID=17"]link[/url]), according to the Barna definition, doesn't have to believe in the divinity of Jesus. Would you agree that Our Lord's divinity is an optional belief for evangelical Christians? Edited October 19, 2006 by Mateo el Feo
homeschoolmom Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 [quote name='Eutychus' post='1095665' date='Oct 19 2006, 09:14 AM']I will post WHY after some answers are given. [/quote] This says to me: I have an agenda in asking these questions. If the agenda is to point out that some "Catholics" are poorly educated, you are not telling us anything we don't already know. If the agenda is to point out that the questions are somewhat loaded (the last one), then I would agree.
Anomaly Posted October 19, 2006 Posted October 19, 2006 The hook and line were visible in the Baited Question. If I remember correctly, you and Budge were asked some questions that you refused to respond to. Why are you getting your panites in a wad when the caths don't want to respond to your baiting? Besides, what's the point in baiting the field, you are already smack dab in the middle of a herd of catholics.
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