mortify Posted October 22, 2006 Posted October 22, 2006 [quote name='knightofdestiny' post='1094709' date='Oct 18 2006, 07:57 AM'] I can't believe were getting in the catholic vs. muslim perspective debate here. All i know is that Islam and the Quran are not flawed. On the other hand the bible has been revised so many times that no one knows if its the truth. Dont forget when the pope was preaching to you guys that the earth was flat and the sun revolved around the world the quran had already stated to muslims that earth is round and that it revolves around the sun. LOL, if anyone in this site can convince me that islam is wrong and what you guys call christianity is right i will gladly convert. I am not one to deny the word of god. Off course if you can show me that its truly the word of God. [/quote] There are textual variants of Quran and its highly likely we dont have the original. The Quran never mentions a spherical earth or that the earth rotates around the sun. It describes the earth as being roled out as a carpet (i.e. flat) and states the sun descends in a murky sea (i.e. sun rotates around the earth). Finally, Islam is intrinsically flawed. [quote name='ReformationNow' post='9756' date='Jul 27 2003, 08:51 PM'] On Jesus Christ To followers of Islam, Jesus Christ is nothing more than a prophet of Allah, and Muhammed supersedes Jesus Christ. However, Jesus Christ was sinless(Sura 3:46); performed miracles(Sura 3:49); and was the Messiah(Sura 3:45; 4:157, 171). Muhammed however, was not sinless; did not perform miracles; nor was a Messiah. Islam teaches that Jesus Christ was nothing but a slave on whom Allah showed favor(Sura 43:59); yet, elsewhere, we are told that the Messiah(Jesus Christ) was not a slave(Sura 4:172). Muslim tradition teaches that Christ was taken bodily off of the Cross without having died(Sura 4:157); yet elswhere teaches that Christ died and was resurrected(Sura 199:33). While scripture never contradicts itself concerning Christ, the Quran does, as is shown above. [/quote] Muslims believe Muhammad was sinless. The Quran does not say Jesus was crucified, but that "it was made to appear to be so" suggesting either an illusion or substitution (most muslims seem to believe in the latter) Additional contradictions though I wont bother looking up the ayat: 1) Mary is mentioned as part of the trinity 2) In the last supper the apostles ask Jesus for a table and food to descend from heaven 3) There are two accounts of the Angel's visit to Mary An interesting parallel is Surah Maryam, which seems to be a near verbatim repetition of the beginning of Luke's Gospel.
musturde Posted October 22, 2006 Posted October 22, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Anomaly' post='1094758' date='Oct 18 2006, 09:58 AM'] Thanks, Akalyte. I was hating the thought of giving up my beer to become a muslim. I hope knightofdestiny doesn't produce a notarized document (signed by God) attesting that the Quarn has no flaws and is truely the word of God. [/quote] Muslims talk about flaws in our religion just like we talk about flaws in theirs. Many feel they have no contradictions in their holy books just as many of us believe there are none in ours. It's funny how similar we are. Edited October 22, 2006 by musturde
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