Budge Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 I wish you would just stick to the issues instead of complaining. Actually I thought doing threads that centered on one poster was agaisnt the rules, it seems to be the only topic you start anymore. Stigmata is not of God, I have already told you that. It is occultic, bloody and gross. You like a liberal will cry I am being judgemental, but that is my sincere belief whether you like it or accept it or not.
cmotherofpirl Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 You have threads where you started with inflamatory false claims about the Church and refuse to answer the responders. When are you going to stick to a topic and not change it?
Budge Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 Until I agree with you, you will see everything I post as inflammatory and not be satisfied with my answers.
Cam42 Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1104981' date='Oct 30 2006, 10:46 AM'] Until I agree with you, you will see everything I post as inflammatory and not be satisfied with my answers. [/quote] The same can be said of you budge. So, how about responding to my post. For some reason, I knew, I just knew that you'd not respond. The tough thing about arguing against the Church is that unless you agree, you are wrong. Why? Because the Church is Jesus Christ and therefore cannot be wrong. Silly human.
cmotherofpirl Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1104981' date='Oct 30 2006, 11:46 AM'] Until I agree with you, you will see everything I post as inflammatory and not be satisfied with my answers. [/quote] Wrong. we don't want agreement, but good manners and actually conversation instead of simply cut and paste catholic baiting written and thought out by someone else.
Budge Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 Ive never personally insulted you. You are angry at me because of what I believe, that your church is a false church.
cmotherofpirl Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 wrong again. read it over til you get it: Wrong. we don't want agreement, but good manners and actually conversation instead of simply cut and paste catholic baiting written and thought out by someone else.
Winchester Posted October 30, 2006 Author Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='Budge' post='1104922' date='Oct 30 2006, 09:50 AM'] I wish you would just stick to the issues instead of complaining. Actually I thought doing threads that centered on one poster was agaisnt the rules, it seems to be the only topic you start anymore. Stigmata is not of God, I have already told you that. It is occultic, bloody and gross. You like a liberal will cry I am being judgemental, but that is my sincere belief whether you like it or accept it or not. [/quote] I'm not complaining, I'm commenting on your special ability. Like I said, I'm impressed. I've started others, but really, with so many people putting up great threads like the one about a painting from after the Inquisition showing us what occured, a lot of ground has been covered. I have to feed my need for attention somehow, don't I? Well, since you told me, I should fall in line, right? This is not about you saying the Stigmata is not from God, it's about you judging the heart of those who present with it. I reckon you did not know Padre Pio personally, so I can set aside the crow. Such a shame, it looks so tender and the cornbread stuffing is moist. Had you simply stopped with the not of God, I wouldn't have been able to take your own words and put them to such effective use against you. In fact, I probably wouldn't have bothered with the topic at all because it's not something we really have to believe, and everyone else was trying to dissuade you, which I've noticed is at least as futile as arguing with the ocean. Had you speculated that the stigmatists were pious lovers of God who got out of hand, I would have thought you were being balanced. You chose to insult them and make a statement you cannot back up. As for insults. When you insult a saint, when you blame a saint for leading you from God and then engage in a debate, you piss people off. Quit whining. Either be combative or don't, but don't get all ticked off because I'm better at it than you. Learn from me, Budge. There was this one (of many) times when you couldn't defeat my tiny little assertions, so you went to questioning my credibility based on my avatar at the time (a character in a pirate movie made by Disney. I now have a cat carrying a fish. I like to think it's me and you; I'm the cat, and you're the little red herring that keeps me company.) That was approaching funny, and it was a pretty good red herring. I'm sure anybody with a fifth grade or less education thought I was a murderous rogue. Obviously, anyone with a few brain cells cooperating thought it was hogwash and wondered why you wouldn't deal with what I said, but hey, you had middle schoolers and below fooled, so what the heck? Ya can't fool all the people all the time.
CrossCuT Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Budge' post='1104922' date='Oct 30 2006, 09:50 AM'] I wish you would just stick to the issues instead of complaining. [/quote] [size=1]According to a large number of people on this website, you dont seem to stick to issues very much either. [/size] Edited October 30, 2006 by CrossCuT
catholicinsd Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='CrossCuT' post='1105055' date='Oct 30 2006, 12:17 PM'] [size=1]According to a large number of people on this website, you dont seem to stick to issues very much either. [/size] [/quote] Can you blame her? Most of the topics are you people bashing Budge.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1105248' date='Oct 30 2006, 06:15 PM'] Can you blame her? Most of the topics are you people bashing Budge. [/quote] No, most of the topics are Budge bashing the Church with lies and false objections and Catholics demanding proof from her and then her hiding. Then there are those who want to call her out, but she won't be called out. She refuses to do as any responsible poster would do and respond to valid objections to her attacks.
catholicinsd Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1105328' date='Oct 30 2006, 04:07 PM'] She refuses to do as any responsible poster would do and respond to valid objections to her attacks. [/quote] And you refuse to stop the personal attacks againist this young woman.
Winchester Posted October 30, 2006 Author Posted October 30, 2006 So commentary against what one says is a personal attack. I made no statement about Budge's personal habits, appearance, morality apart from her own words. She claimed to have a special insight and I commented on it. You need to do a little research.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1105347' date='Oct 30 2006, 07:21 PM'] And you refuse to stop the personal attacks againist this young woman. [/quote] Have you reported any personal attacks?
catholicinsd Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1105396' date='Oct 30 2006, 05:04 PM'] Have you reported any personal attacks? [/quote] If I shall, they shall fall on deaf hears. [quote name='Winchester' post='1105370' date='Oct 30 2006, 04:33 PM'] You need to do a little research. [/quote] I have and I've found, you need to get do a little charity
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1105407' date='Oct 30 2006, 08:11 PM'] If I shall, they shall fall on deaf hears. [/quote] Then you haven't? So you're judging us before giving it a try? Are you aware that that's prejudice? I've warned people for being uncharitable to fundamentalists...but you see, there generally has to be something we can edit. Just not being "nice" isn't enough.
catholicinsd Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1105411' date='Oct 30 2006, 05:13 PM'] Then you haven't? So you're judging us before giving it a try? Are you aware that that's prejudice? I've warned people for being uncharitable to fundamentalists...but you see, there generally has to be something we can edit. Just not being "nice" isn't enough. [/quote] Fine I'd like to report that several people who frequet this debate have behaved in a most uncharitable, un-catholic way towards Budge, and everyone else who disagrees with them.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1105414' date='Oct 30 2006, 08:18 PM'] Fine I'd like to report that several people who frequet this debate have behaved in a most uncharitable, un-catholic way towards Budge, and everyone else who disagrees with them. [/quote] You have to hit the report button on such posts. We're not going to go look up every post trying to find what you think is uncharitable. Remember though, as I said, we can't edit people for not being "nice." People have the right to express themselves, even through satire, so long as it is not to violation of the person. Poking fun at the arguments a person makes is entirely different from poking fun at the person making the arguments. The point is to show that they are silly, not to insult the author. This must be done in a way that does not confuse argument ad argumentum with argument ad hominem. That said, if you have something to report, make sure you cite exactly what it is that offends you.
catholicinsd Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='Raphael' post='1105420' date='Oct 30 2006, 05:22 PM'] You have to hit the report button on such posts. We're not going to go look up every post trying to find what you think is uncharitable. Remember though, as I said, we can't edit people for not being "nice." People have the right to express themselves, even through satire, so long as it is not to violation of the person. Poking fun at the arguments a person makes is entirely different from poking fun at the person making the arguments. The point is to show that they are silly, not to insult the author. That said, if you have something to report, make sure you cite exactly what it is that offends you. [/quote] Well, when people who aren't Church "Faithful" do that you all jump all over them.
Thy Geekdom Come Posted October 30, 2006 Posted October 30, 2006 [quote name='catholicinsd' post='1105423' date='Oct 30 2006, 08:24 PM'] Well, when people who aren't Church "Faithful" do that you all jump all over them. [/quote] How would you know who the mods jump all over when such things are privately communicated between the mod and the reporter? You're making a lot of prejudiced statements. Any further criticism of moderators or moderation protocol should be made privately to a moderator.
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