Homosexual Living Together

[Anomaly]

Are you people aware that the Bishops in the North East area of the US are helping draft legislation for Same Sex Civil Unions? That's okay as long as they aren't married?

Edit to add:
Dug a little further. This is up in New Jersey. I guess the Bishops are trying to not let a bad law get worse.

[quote]the State Supreme Court in its 4-3 decision said that the state legislature must decide whether to grant this equality through marriage or another form of civil partnership. It gave the legislature 180 days to modify current laws or draft a new one.

The bishops' Oct. 25 statement, signed by Newark Archbishop John J. Myers, conference president, said the legislature is where the discussion of marriage "rightly belongs."

"For the sake of constitutional democracy as well as for the sake of marriage itself, the proper place for such discussion must rest with the elected representatives of the people of this state," said Archbishop Myers.

"Even if marriage were a type of institution that could be redefined, it would not be up to the court to decide whether to redefine it," he said.

At the same time, the archbishop said that "marriage is not the creation of the state." He called it a "natural institution – with its own characteristics and features – that is prior to any particular political or legal system." [/quote]

Edited November 5, 2006 by Anomaly

[Kosh]

huh???

oh, and I also don't think the government should be messing around with this, period.

And define a Civil Union. (b/c ambiguity based on definitions is not cool)

[kamiller42]

[quote name='kamiller42' post='1111443' date='Nov 4 2006, 09:04 PM']
I guess it depends on what you are researching. If my research requires locating news articles, Google.com or news.google.com is a better choice. If I want an authority on a particular subject, scholar.google.com is better. What is nice about Google.com is that if you are searching on a topic and hits at its others sites, like scholar.google.com, exist, it'll show up at the top of google.com's search results. Pretty smart system.
[/quote]
Is Google a "stupid search tool"? I was reminded of the remark made in this thread about Google being a stupid search tool when I read the following news story:

[quote]
[b]"Doctors using Google to diagnose illnesses"[/b]

The internet search engine Google has added another impressive string to its bow - by helping doctors diagnose illnesses, according to a new study.

[b]Researchers found that almost six-in-10 difficult cases can be solved by using the world wide web as a diagnostic aid.[/b]

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Google searches found the correct diagnosis in 15 (58 per cent) of cases. Respiratory and sleep physician Dr Hangwi Tang, who led the study, said: "[b]Doctors adept at using the internet [color="#FF0000"]use Google[/color] to help them diagnose difficult cases[/b].

"As described in the New England Journal of Medicine, a doctor astonished her colleagues including an eminent professor by correctly diagnosing IPEX (immunodeficiency, polyendocrinopathy, enteropathy, X linked) syndrome.

[b]She admitted that the diagnosis 'popped right out' after she entered the salient features into Google." [/b]
...
[url="http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=415562&in_page_id=1770"]Source[/url]
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Score another one for Google. If it's good enough to save lives, it's good enough to refute arguments. :

[Guest trevorh_2000]

[quote name='Didymus' post='1109026' date='Nov 2 2006, 04:06 PM']
but we don't leave paralyzed people with nothing. To help them, we do more then just put in a wheelchir ramp. There is plenty being done to get it to the point when we can undo a handicap and give the person another chance to have the full function of their legs.

If homosexuality was seen by society as the unnatural state that it is, then we would be one step closer to helping these people get back on the right track. Our culture has given up on the fact that homosexuality can be helped and in fact reversed because it no longer sees anything wrong or distorted with it.

So if I am a consenting adult, does that mean I could go rape a dog? or go slash peoples tires? what if I was brought up thinking that was okay?
[/quote]
No, you cant go rape a dog, because the dog didnt consent to it. The tires didnt consent to be slashed either. Think before you speak!

[Veritas]

[quote name='trevorh_2000' post='1126579' date='Nov 23 2006, 12:17 AM']
No, you cant go rape a dog, because the dog didnt consent to it. The tires didnt consent to be slashed either. Think before you speak!
[/quote]

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If not the manner in which you speak, I must agree that the examples aren't very comparable... what were you trying to say Didymus?

Edited November 23, 2006 by Veritas

[zeyeon]

I think civil unions aren't even the church's business.. because the homosexuals aren't trying to get thier marriages sanctioned by the catholic church.

Civil unions is a government title that just give a tax break.

I mean yea if a homosexual couple asks the church to marry them... Definitley say no.

But in America there is a seperation of church and state. personally I don't want the state involved in my personal relationships at all. But if the homosexuals want it to be then what are you gonna do ya know?