Chiquitunga Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 I saw them posted a few times before, but I thought I'd post again on the Handmaids of Nazareth. They are a new community and have a convent in the diocese of Peoria. I have a friend who recently took her final vows with them here in Chicago. She has MS. She was in 2 other orders and struggled a lot with her disability and with the sisters accepting her and being a part of the community. When she found the Handmaids of Nazareth she was soo happy and is very enthusiastic about promoting them. I think she is the closest I've come to meeting a saint. She suffers so much, but is incredibly joyful. The Handmaids of Nazareth take 4 vows, Poverty, Chastity, Obedience, and Joy! (to imitate the Joy of the Blessed Mother, the first handmaid of Nazareth) [mod]We have been informed that the community no longer exists. Please pray for all who were part of the community. - Lil Red[/mod]
cathoholic_anonymous Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 I like the way you describe them, but their website seems a little...terse.
HeavenlyCalling Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1112535' date='Nov 6 2006, 07:31 AM'] I like the way you describe them, but their website seems a little...terse. [/quote] In what way?
cathoholic_anonymous Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 [quote]Please contact us in writing. You must include your telephone number if you wish a reply. No exceptions.[/quote] That, for a start. What if for some reason you don't have a telephone? I know one or two people at my university's chaplaincy who don't. Not all college students have the money for one. Most communities sound a little more welcoming when they invite people to contact them. [quote]We can not accept women with mental or emotional problems. Our convents are centered around Christ in His Eucharistic Presence. Our charism is to pray for bishops and priests.[/quote] That is the worst of all - the way the Eucharistic Presence of Christ and the charism of the congregation are listed together with the community's inability to accept women with mental and psychological problems. I accept that it is rarely possible to admit such women to religious life, but to spell it out so starkly...I don't know. Those three statements seem to give a new meaning to the term 'bullet point'. Does no one else feel this, or am I the only one?
shortnun Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1112560' date='Nov 6 2006, 07:49 AM'] Those three statements seem to give a new meaning to the term 'bullet point'. Does no one else feel this, or am I the only one? [/quote] Well, I agree that they get straight to the point. However, it appears as if they only have that page as their entire website. Their intention might be to communication as much information as possible on one page. That's just my two cents.
be_thou_my_vision Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1112560' date='Nov 6 2006, 08:49 AM'] That is the worst of all - the way the Eucharistic Presence of Christ and the charism of the congregation are listed together with the community's inability to accept women with mental and psychological problems. I accept that it is rarely possible to admit such women to religious life, but to spell it out so starkly...I don't know. Those three statements seem to give a new meaning to the term 'bullet point'. Does no one else feel this, or am I the only one? [/quote] Is any community any different? They are all centered around Christ and the Eucharist, don't accept those with mental/emotional disorders (generally), and pray for priest. I don't think they sound much different than any other order I've heard of...
puellapaschalis Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 I can see what you mean, but I usually try to read the best interpretation possible into words, especially online. shortnun has a good point. Love and prayers, PP
be_thou_my_vision Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) I didn't mean to make my comment sound bad... PP, I don't know exactly what you mean about trying to get the best interpretation possible... I'm not understanding well today, too tired I agree totally with shortnun. Edited November 6, 2006 by be_thou_my_vision
puellapaschalis Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Sorry, sorry, I was replying directly to CA. My apologies for not making it clear! For what it's worth, I'm not trying to get at anyone, rather just offering how I read it. Love and prayers, PP
Chiquitunga Posted November 6, 2006 Author Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) Hi! Yeah, actually I get what you mean by the web page sounding a bit stark, saying all those things up front, and not seeming to be much different than most communities these days. I think they especially point this out, that they do not accept women with mental or emotional problems, because they especially invite women with disabilities. That is why the community fit so well for my friend who has MS and a few other things. Also she is not able to live in the convent, because she has to go to physical therapy a lot, so the she is allowed to live at home. That's the thing that makes this community different. She was able to go through the whole formation as a religious, 6 years, and then this year she took final vows, and still she is able to live at home with her disability. You see what I mean? Otherwise, most people in her case would probably not have the change to be a religious. That is really one of the special charisms of this community, though it isn't said very clearly on this site. The community actually doesn't have an official website. This is just a flyer that was made, and then put online by someone. Another thing about them is that they welcome older canditates. I met a few of the other sisters. The Mother also has a disability and is in a wheelchair. They are kind of a spread out community, which probably would not be best for most young women. But for those with special needs, it can be a great fit. As far as I know they have some in NY, some in Peoria, IL, and some in Steubenville, OH. My friend said for their formation they use the Catechism series by Fr. John Hardon, S.J., founder of the IRL, who used to be my friend's sp director. Her name is Sr. Maria Paulina, by the way. She is well known and loved by many in the Chicago archdiocese. So if you know anyone with a disability interested in religious life, let them know about the Handmaids of Nazareth. [mod]We have been informed that the community no longer exists. Please pray for all who were part of the community. - Lil Red[/mod] Edited June 2, 2008 by Lil Red
Veritas Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 [quote name='Margaret Clare' post='1113047' date='Nov 6 2006, 05:15 PM'] Hi! Yeah, actually I get what you mean by the web page sounding a bit stark, saying all those things up front, and not seeming to be much different than most communities these days. I think they especially point this out, that they do not accept women with mental or emotional problems, because they especially invite women with disabilities. That is why the community fit so well for my friend who has MS and a few other things. Also she is not able to live in the convent, because she has to go to physical therapy a lot, so the she is allowed to live at home. That's the thing that makes this community different. She was able to go through the whole formation as a religious, 6 years, and then this year she took final vows, and still she is able to live at home with her disability. You see what I mean? Otherwise, most people in her case would probably not have the change to be a religious. That is really one of the special charisms of this community, though it isn't said very clearly on this site. The community actually doesn't have an official website. This is just a flyer that was made, and then put online by someone. Another thing about them is that they welcome older canditates. I met a few of the other sisters. The Mother also has a disability and is in a wheelchair. They are kind of a spread out community, which probably would not be best for most young women. But for those with special needs, it can be a great fit. As far as I know they have some in NY, some in Peoria, IL, and some in Steubenville, OH. My friend said for their formation they use the Catechism series by Fr. John Hardon, S.J., founder of the IRL, who used to be my friend's sp director. Her name is Sr. Maria Paulina, by the way. She is well known and loved by many in the Chicago archdiocese. So if you know anyone with a disability interested in religious life, let them know about the Handmaids of Nazareth. [/quote] That's incredible! Especially the living at home part!
Chiquitunga Posted November 6, 2006 Author Posted November 6, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Veritas' post='1113061' date='Nov 6 2006, 05:31 PM'] That's incredible! Especially the living at home part! [/quote] Yeah, although Sister may soon be able to live in one of the convents, which she said she would like much better than living at home as a religious. She is actually quite independant, especially with all her disabilities. She is the music director at a parish in Chicago, and plays the organ very well, which many think is a miracle in itself, since she cannot write very well because of the MS. She drives herself around too! But it's great for her to have this flexibility and still be a vowed religious. She made her final vows in April at St. John Cantius Church. 11 priests concelebrated the Mass! She said to me actually she didn't really like this flyer that is on this site. Another thing different about this community is that each of the sisters is supposed to be able to support herself - so they will have jobs of some sort outside of the convent - Sr. MP is paid as a music director. But she told me they have some in her community that are more contemplative and some more active. Edited November 6, 2006 by Margaret Clare
Veritas Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 + Does she wear a habit? Do they all wear habits?
be_thou_my_vision Posted November 6, 2006 Posted November 6, 2006 Margaret Clare, This community sound absolutely blessed. Thank you for sharing.
Chiquitunga Posted November 7, 2006 Author Posted November 7, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Veritas' post='1113161' date='Nov 6 2006, 06:45 PM'] + Does she wear a habit? Do they all wear habits? [/quote] Oh yes, definitely! They all wear habits. It is a simple habit, since I believe most of the members are older or have disabilities. They wear a white plain shirt, with a sleeve-less long dress/habit that is dark blue, for the Blessed Mother. In the Summer they can wear a short sleeve shirt (not really short though). Their veil is white, for the purity of OL with a red band around it, to honor the Precious Blood of Jesus. And they also wear sandals without socks. (though probably in the Winter they can wear socks, or maybe regular shoes) Here are a few lines I found from a parish in San Antonio, Our Lady of the Atonement. Maybe she is another similar to Sr. Maria Paulina, who must live outside of the convent for serious reasons. "We congratulate our own Sr. Mary Margaret who has been in formation with the Handmaids of Nazareth for two years. With the permission of Archbishop Flores, Sr. took her first vows with the order on January 29th at the parish. Mother Mary Yvonne, HN, the superior of the order, came to the parish to witness the vows made during holy Mass, and joined with us in a celebration reception following. As part of her first vows, Sr. Mary Margaret received the Veil and the order's Cross. The Handmaids of Nazareth is an institute of religious life of women in the United States under the diocesan law of the Bishop of Peoria, the Most Rev. John Meyers. All of the Sisters are self-supporting. The spirituality of the Handmaids of Nazareth is both Marian and Eucharistic. The Sisters strive to follow the example of Mary, the Handmaid of Nazareth and, through her, to serve Jesus her divine Son, who remains among us today in His Eucharistic Presence. The Community of the Handmaids of Nazareth is faithful to the magisterium of the Church, under the authority of the Roman Pontiff." Edited November 7, 2006 by Margaret Clare
cathoholic_anonymous Posted November 8, 2006 Posted November 8, 2006 Ah. That's OK if it is just a copy of a flyer designed on their behalf. I'd be puzzled if a sister had written it. Is there a chance of them ever having a proper website? [quote]So if you know anyone with a disability interested in religious life, let them know about the Handmaids of Nazareth.[/quote] I have a disability, but I expect that Carmel should be able to accommodate my needs. It's beautiful that the Handmaids are actively encouraging the vocations of disabled people, though. Few orders do that. It makes you feel nice and welcome...
sanctafamilia Posted January 21, 2007 Posted January 21, 2007 [quote name='Cathoholic Anonymous' post='1115039' date='Nov 8 2006, 09:11 AM'] Ah. That's OK if it is just a copy of a flyer designed on their behalf. I'd be puzzled if a sister had written it. Is there a chance of them ever having a proper website? I have a disability, but I expect that Carmel should be able to accommodate my needs. It's beautiful that the Handmaids are actively encouraging the vocations of disabled people, though. Few orders do that. It makes you feel nice and welcome... [/quote] Which carmelite community are you referring to? I also have a disability and am discerning a vocation. I spoke with Mother Mary Yvonne some years ago but have lost contact with her. I would like to reach her again. Does she have email or something? God bless, Krista
Chiquitunga Posted January 21, 2007 Author Posted January 21, 2007 (edited) [quote name='sanctafamilia' post='1171896' date='Jan 20 2007, 10:31 PM']Which carmelite community are you referring to? I also have a disability and am discerning a vocation. I spoke with Mother Mary Yvonne some years ago but have lost contact with her. I would like to reach her again. Does she have email or something? God bless, Krista[/quote]Dear Krista, Praised be Jesus Christ! The only address I've seen is the one on the flyer on the site: I believe Mother Mary Yvonne is there in Pittsford. Otherwise, the one Handmaid of Nazareth that I know is Sr. Maria Paulina. She is the music director at St. Thomas More Parish (home of the South Side's Traditional Latin Mass) If you call the parish, you could ask for her, and ask her about contacting Mother. She is very friendly. And if she's not there, you could leave a message for her. The staff there are friendly too, and all know Sr. MP. She just took her final vows last year, and all were invited. So everyone knows about the Handmaids of Nazareth there. [mod]We have been informed that the community no longer exists. Please pray for all who were part of the community. - Lil Red[/mod] Edited June 2, 2008 by Lil Red
Chiquitunga Posted January 26, 2007 Author Posted January 26, 2007 (edited) I thought I would put Sixtina's quote in here, too. [quote name='Sixtina87' post='732225' date='Sep 20 2005, 10:23 PM'] [img]http://i13.photobucket.com/albums/a268/Sixtina87/hand.jpg[/img] this pic is of the Handmaids of Nazareth. Their habits are of the handmaids..i think of Jesus time, not sure though!!!!! They are a religiosu community made up of widows!!!!! Each Sister has childrena dn live at home with their family!!!! they take 4 vows, poveryt, chaisty, obedience and joy!!!!! theya re great Sisters and very up beat community!!!! i know them quite well!!!! Actulyl i'm suppose ot help one of them out here in October and November!!!!! [/quote] I knew they accepted widows and older people, but I didn't know they have the flexibility to live at home. Sr. Maria Pauline does currently live at home with her dad, because of her disability. But I know they are looking for a convent where she could be at still be able to get out for physical theraphy and her job as music director. She is really great at playing the organ and all the traditional music for the Latin Mass and everything. Edited January 26, 2007 by Margaret Clare
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