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From The Guardian (13/1/04):

An Oxford University publishing project has re-evaluated the Seven Deadly Sins and found them to be largely obsolete. Philosopher Simon Blackburn argues that Lust in particular has been given a bad name, and should be "reclaimed for humanity". The notion that the Seven Deadly Sins, first introduced in the 6th century, are incompatible with modern life is hardly shocking. Not even one of them is against the law any more.  A few, such as Gluttony, Envy and Avarice, are vital components of a health retail sector. New sins which reflect current morality are needed urgently.

Do you think they are 'largely obsolete'? Does sin change?

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Just because they are not against the law should not make them obsolete. The Key words are "Deadly Sins" not Laws.

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Sin never changeth, just like my GOD.

sorry I'm selfish

Posted

lust should be "reclaimed for humanity"? give me a break.....if you approach these sins from a modernist, secularist, relativistic standpoint then of course they don't apply. but approach them from a theological standpoint--wether u believe in moral absolutes or not--and i think u'll find that they are just as deadly as they have always been. i think humanity has claimed enough lust already! i personally would like to be rid of it (not as one of the deadly sins, but as something that negatively effects my life). but, oh, how it continues to creep back in.....

pax christi,

phatcatholic

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I can respond to that Oxford University claim in 4 words -- THERE'S NO NEW MORALITY!

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ha.

humanity can claim lust and whatever else it wants.

Christ can claim my soul.

Edited by mulls
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A few, such as Gluttony, Envy and Avarice, are vital components of a health retail sector. New sins which reflect current morality are needed urgently.

yeah... thats good...

w/o gluttony, no one would eat? am i reading that right? cause that's how it sounds to me... and that's just silly! HAha!!! (everyone laugh with me)

new sins come, but they always return to the basic old teaching...

example:

1004ad- Lust probably was thought to be something that could arise from an exposed knee from a woman.

2004ad- Lust is something that can arise from surfing the web.

there is no need for a "new sin" because we're used to what was considered scandalous then when the basic reasoning behind it still stands

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I can respond to that Oxford University claim in 4 words -- THERE'S NO NEW MORALITY!

fttht! that oxford thinks it's so cool! :gradtalk:

you tell 'em dave! :thumb:

Kilroy the Ninja
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ah, secular humanism at it's finest! :rolleyes:

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:o Ooops, it should read 'a few .....are vital components of a HEALTHY retail sector.'

Sorry! :(

Hmmm, I suspect my concern that 'retail therapy' might be a deadly sin made me unconsiously type the word health instead!!! :lol: :lol:

Posted

There is no new morality.

Absolutely!

However does that mean that all sin can be defined within the seven deadly sins and there are no new ones?

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Absolutely!

However does that mean that all sin can be defined within the seven deadly sins and there are no new ones?

i beleive that is the case. afterall, is this not why the 7 were listed in the first place? it has always been my understanding that these are the 7 from wence all other sins derive--which is what makes them deadly. at any rate, pride is the deadliest (and so always listed first) and the root of all sin.

i also like how the catechism groups all sins under the ten commandments. there is depth and underlying meaning to each commandment far beyond what many may imagine.

very intriguing.....

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Spiritual_Arsonist
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Oh yeah, I forgot, since the world is in a state of moral decay, the body of Christ must follow too.

Now I have a new reason to eat cookies without feeling guilty.

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I'd LOVE to see the NEW 7 deadly sins according to our society:

Humility

Poverty

Charity

Chastity

Temperence

Intolerance

Piety

Kilroy the Ninja
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That is so true God Conquers. It's almost poetic.

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I'd LOVE to see the NEW 7 deadly sins according to our society:

Humility

Poverty

Charity

Chastity

Temperence

Intolerance

Piety

Too true. And very sad.

I can't believe these people actually thought that we're the ones to decide what sin is! That we can just change the deadly sins! How stupid!

:getaclue:

Posted

There was a hilarious incident that I heard about recently along the same lines.

A group of French chefs went to Rome to ask the pope to formally repeal the sin of gluttony!

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God Conquers---So True!!!

Now, we must get to work on revising those antiquated Ten Commandments! ;):lol:

Pax Christi. <><

Kilroy the Ninja
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oh, oh I've got a new commandment...

Thou shalt not wear white after Labor Day....unless thou really wants to.

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Thou shalt not wear white after Labor Day

Now see, I don't understand this commandment.... :blink: there's no context...which means of course I shall have to interpret it myself :wacko:...

...having reflected for a while ( :rolling: ) I've come to an understanding that wearing the colour white is now banned :banned:

Any other like minded people out there.......?

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