Noeyez Posted December 1, 2006 Posted December 1, 2006 (edited) My resoning is this. Most people think it's selective words. Such as the F-bomb. the rationale of it, from my understanding, is that they are not good to use because it's an ignorant mind trying to express itself with force. However what were the origins of curse words? I mean if someone were to say a curse word as a sign of a respect... like "you're the F-bomb Best," wouldn't that be considered more polite than negatively calling somebody a Troll? Because even though Troll is not "considered" profanity... doesn't the same spirit live in that word? For example: [url="http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=61339"]http://www.phatmass.com/phorum/index.php?showtopic=61339[/url] scroll down is it not just a forceful word (in this case picture) that is said when one can't think of anything else? Thoughts? Edited December 1, 2006 by Noeyez
rollingcatholic Posted December 1, 2006 Posted December 1, 2006 [mod]Personal Attacks -Aloysius[/mod]
rollingcatholic Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 [mod]Take it up privately, please. --Era Might[/mod]
Noeyez Posted December 2, 2006 Author Posted December 2, 2006 [quote name='RC _' post='1133297' date='Dec 1 2006, 08:03 PM'][mod]Take it up privately, please. --Era Might[/mod] [/quote] an example of what? i changed my screen name because the other one was banned. Seeing as somebody is incapable of having a logical discussion. So please stop with the personal insults and stick to the topic. Thanks.
Aloysius Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 please, just because one holds a position which is logically inconsistent that doesn't make one a troll. this is a perfectly acceptable topic: why are certain words labeled as bad? et cetera.
Noeyez Posted December 2, 2006 Author Posted December 2, 2006 [quote name='Aloysius' post='1133305' date='Dec 1 2006, 08:06 PM'] please, just because one holds a position which is logically inconsistent that doesn't make one a troll. this is a perfectly acceptable topic: why are certain words labeled as bad? et cetera. [/quote] Thanks ... I think lol
rollingcatholic Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 (edited) [quote name='Aloysius' post='1133305' date='Dec 1 2006, 07:06 PM'] please, just because one holds a position which is logically inconsistent that doesn't make one a troll. this is a perfectly acceptable topic: why are certain words labeled as bad? et cetera. [/quote] [mod]Take if up privately, please. --Era Might[/mod] Edited December 2, 2006 by Era Might
Noeyez Posted December 2, 2006 Author Posted December 2, 2006 (edited) [quote name='RC _' post='1133311' date='Dec 1 2006, 08:07 PM'] [mod]Take if up privately, please. --Era Might [/mod] [/quote] Why do you continue to insult me? What did I do to you? I hope you don't bring this frustration to church because that's how kids get hurt man. You need to let it go. now please stick to the topic. Thanks Edited December 3, 2006 by Lil Red
rollingcatholic Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 [quote name='Noeyez' post='1133314' date='Dec 1 2006, 07:09 PM'] Why do you continue to insult me? What did I do to you? I hope you don't bring this frustration to church because that's how kids get hurt man. You need to let it go. now please stick to the topic. Thanks [/quote] Why are you so defensive about being called a troll? If you're not one, prove it. BTW: Why were you banned? And why did you violate forum guidelines and make a new screen name to get around a ban?
Aloysius Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 his point is justified in some sense: Jesus said whoever says to his brother "you fool" is liable to the fires of Gehenna. while here at phatmass for the sake of avoiding scandal we also ban those words which society deems vulgar, it is indeed the intention of the word which makes it good or bad... and name-calling is a bad intention. his ban had to do with the bickering/namecalling/personal attacks going on.
Noeyez Posted December 2, 2006 Author Posted December 2, 2006 (edited) [quote name='RC _' post='1133318' date='Dec 1 2006, 08:11 PM'] Why are you so defensive about being called a troll? If you're not one, prove it. BTW: Why were you banned? And why did you violate forum guidelines and make a new screen name to get around a ban? [/quote] Because I was unjustly banned. And I believe I'm innocent until proven guilty. I emailed Dust and he will be investigating. I will honor the ban... if he says I'm in the wrong. meanin you won't even have to ban my screen name. I'm a man of my word and I actually have the self control to stop myself from posting for 7 days. And I have nothing to proove to you. You obviously are bitter with something else in your life and have found an outlet taking it out on me. Now PLEASE STOP WITH THE OFF TOPIC POSTS... because by your definition... you're trolling [quote name='Aloysius' post='1133326' date='Dec 1 2006, 08:14 PM'] his point is justified in some sense: Jesus said whoever says to his brother "you fool" is liable to the fires of Gehenna. while here at phatmass for the sake of avoiding scandal we also ban those words which society deems vulgar, it is indeed the intention of the word which makes it good or bad... and name-calling is a bad intention. his ban had to do with the bickering/namecalling/personal attacks going on. [/quote] does anybody have cited works that have research on teh origins of profanity? Edited December 2, 2006 by Noeyez
rollingcatholic Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 [quote name='Noeyez' post='1133329' date='Dec 1 2006, 07:14 PM'] Because I was unjustly banned. And I believe I'm innocent until proven guilty. I emailed Dust and he will be investigating. I will honor the ban... if he says I'm in the wrong. meanin you won't even have to ban my screen name. I'm a man of my word and I actually have the self control to stop myself from posting for 7 days. [/quote] You're not honoring the ban now.
Noeyez Posted December 2, 2006 Author Posted December 2, 2006 [quote name='RC _' post='1133336' date='Dec 1 2006, 08:17 PM'] You're not honoring the ban now. [/quote] Because it was done without investigation. Mathew 18 says if you have a problem with somebody take it up with them first... which you didn't do Then get a whitness... which you skipped to and got me banned. Then bring it before the congregation... which is what I'm doing by asking Dust to investigate. So no I am not honoring the ban at this point in time because I believe it to have been handled improperly.
rollingcatholic Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 [quote name='Noeyez' post='1133344' date='Dec 1 2006, 07:19 PM'] Because it was done without investigation. Mathew 18 says if you have a problem with somebody take it up with them first... which you didn't do Then get a whitness... which you skipped to and got me banned. Then bring it before the congregation... which is what I'm doing by asking Dust to investigate. So no I am not honoring the ban at this point in time because I believe it to have been handled improperly. [/quote] I didn't ban you.
Noeyez Posted December 2, 2006 Author Posted December 2, 2006 [quote name='RC _' post='1133352' date='Dec 1 2006, 08:21 PM'] I didn't ban you. [/quote] It's of no consequence. if you want to talk about it then pm me. This is getting off topic.
rollingcatholic Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 Did this thread have a topic, other than to slam me?
Noeyez Posted December 2, 2006 Author Posted December 2, 2006 (edited) [quote name='RC _' post='1133357' date='Dec 1 2006, 08:25 PM'] Did this thread have a topic, other than to slam me? [/quote] This wasn't to slam you. You're insults directed at me made me think of the idea... I actually want to discuss the origins of profanity. stop taking stuff so personally. Edited December 2, 2006 by Noeyez
Didymus Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 I wouldn't think calling someone a troll would be profane, maybe mean in some cases, but I didn't even know what that meant... I would say the F-bomb is a prime example of profane if not completley vulgar language
-I---Love Posted December 2, 2006 Posted December 2, 2006 I am highjacking this thread 1) it's off topic and lame already - the original ? was cool though 2) I want to pm Aloysius and can't b/c i don't know why - anyways hi Aloysius - and have you decided that I fell off the face of the earth or something?
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